TRO Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 When he has earned enough brownie points and a section of the fan base are not looking.....he will get shut of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post avfcwills10 Posted May 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2015 Apparently we have no right to expect consistancy from Gabby because he'd be playing for Chelsea or PSG otherwise. Ah, you appear to have misunderstood again - Gabby is consistent, he's consistently Gabby, and I don't think we can expect Gabby to be anything but Gabby. If he was at his best every game then he'd most likely be somewhere else, if he was at his worst in every game then he'd most likely be somewhere else, but he is what he is and we are what we are. As long as he's better than other players in his position then he's in the side on merit, for me that's still the case. I understand that for you that's not true. OBE; with the greatest of respect to you, you really are stretching it now. Gabby is consistently Gabby?? Yes of course we have the right to expect a professional footballer to deliver a high level of performance over a significant period. Yes of course players have dips in form, I totally get this, but in my view Gabby is poor over lengthy periods of time. And in my view he averages out as good over lengthy periods of time. Opinions are like that. The expectation that was being suggested was that he should consistently be the way he is when he's at his very best, I don't think we can expect that level consistently, he's not consistent, but I don't think we need to demand that in order for him to be effective for us, you have to either accept him as he is or not; he is the player he is - I think he's good enough on that basis, you don't. I can accept that, he can be maddening and he can frustrate, but over a long period of time, he's produced for us in my opinion. I don't think that's stretching anything. Whichever, I'll be surprised if he's not a regular starter next season when fit, which means we can continue to disagree for at least another year (and from my side hopefully another three or four.) Your deluded mate. He can not pass, shoot, cross, take a player on (without whacking it 15 yards forward and getting there first when it's vs last man), his movement is awful, he actually makes other players like Grealish worse too because he comes too deep to get the ball and doesn't have a clue what to do with it. If we actually want to improve he can not be in the starting 11. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Gabby agbonlahor has featured in a team that has consistently flirted with relegation and has consistently been crying out for goals. Along with many others he needs a new appraisal that mirrors our performances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Would anyone out there who takes a kid to watch villa say keep a eye on gabby and learn something. He is not a football player AVFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 OBE; yes I am one of those who very clearly do not believe he is good enough to play for Aston Villa or in the premier league for that matter So why has he had some pretty good scoring seasons at this level? How many other players "not good enough for the Premier League" have had 3 straight seasons of reaching double figures in league goals? He's been stuck on the wing an awful lot too Well if you feel that just by reaching double figures is ok? Please feel free to carry on! Why wouldn't it be ok? Only around 20 players do it each season, don't they? I'd imagine over half of them are from the top 6 sides. Surely you have answered this yourself? His inability to regularly notch above 9-10 goals a season is one of the reasons that we are no longer a top six outfit. He is a striker and supposedly a good one after all??? How have I answered it myself? We have a striker who regularly gets in to double figures, Benteke - it's the top 4 sides that have multiple players who do that every year. He got 9 the other year and we were nearly relegated, I hardly think 1 more goal from him would turn is into a top 6 side, there's plenty more problems than Agbonlahor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Agbonhlahor is part of the bigger problem, the players who aren't good enough yet are eating away our wage budget. Gabby, N'Zogbia, Bent, Given - get rid of them and we're looking at 200k minimum per week saved but it's a lot easier said than done because nobody really wants them. Back to Gabby though - in the last 5 seasons, he's scored 33 goals in 164 games. That's awful, it really is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Only 3 more years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGabbana Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Agbonhlahor is part of the bigger problem, the players who aren't good enough yet are eating away our wage budget. Gabby, N'Zogbia, Bent, Given - get rid of them and we're looking at 200k minimum per week saved but it's a lot easier said than done because nobody really wants them. Back to Gabby though - in the last 5 seasons, he's scored 33 goals in 164 games. That's awful, it really is. Gabby is on the same wedge as nzog 65k a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I'm calling it now, Gabby scores the winner on Saturday...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I'm calling it now, Gabby scores the winner on Saturday...... I genuinely think that would make me do a happy cry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Agbonhlahor is part of the bigger problem, the players who aren't good enough yet are eating away our wage budget. Gabby, N'Zogbia, Bent, Given - get rid of them and we're looking at 200k minimum per week saved but it's a lot easier said than done because nobody really wants them. Back to Gabby though - in the last 5 seasons, he's scored 33 goals in 164 games. That's awful, it really is. Gabby is on the same wedge as nzog 65k a week No he isn't, and Zog doesn't even earn that. He took a vastly reduced salary in return for a four year deal. Still a waste like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 No he isn't, and Zog doesn't even earn that. He took a vastly reduced salary in return for a four year deal. Still a waste like... Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Back to Gabby though - in the last 5 seasons, he's scored 33 goals in 164 games. That's awful, it really is. It's not that bad, to be honest. 1 in 5 as a wide forward/striker is pretty average stuff, certainly not "awful". It's the type of figures I should imagine Shane Long, Jason Puncheon, Oscar and other "supporting forwards" probably rack up. And that's exactly what Gabby gives us - support. He has pace and a reasonable amount of strength. He works the opposition defence and creates space for others (Benteke). Whether he is worth the current wage packet he's on (rumoured £60k-ish?!) is a different debate. To label a 1 in 5 goal record whilst not playing as a main striker "awful" is just plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGabbana Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Agbonhlahor is part of the bigger problem, the players who aren't good enough yet are eating away our wage budget. Gabby, N'Zogbia, Bent, Given - get rid of them and we're looking at 200k minimum per week saved but it's a lot easier said than done because nobody really wants them. Back to Gabby though - in the last 5 seasons, he's scored 33 goals in 164 games. That's awful, it really is.Gabby is on the same wedge as nzog 65k a week No he isn't, and Zog doesn't even earn that. He took a vastly reduced salary in return for a four year deal. Still a waste like... My brother knows nzog and he said himself hes on 65k the same as gabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post avfcwills10 Posted May 26, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) Back to Gabby though - in the last 5 seasons, he's scored 33 goals in 164 games. That's awful, it really is. It's not that bad, to be honest. 1 in 5 as a wide forward/striker is pretty average stuff, certainly not "awful". It's the type of figures I should imagine Shane Long, Jason Puncheon, Oscar and other "supporting forwards" probably rack up. And that's exactly what Gabby gives us - support. He has pace and a reasonable amount of strength. He works the opposition defence and creates space for others (Benteke). Whether he is worth the current wage packet he's on (rumoured £60k-ish?!) is a different debate. To label a 1 in 5 goal record whilst not playing as a main striker "awful" is just plain wrong. This is a myth, he doesn't create space for others at all. When he plays up front he literally stands on the last defender and only starts running if you knock the ball over the top. And when he plays (sort of) on the wing, all he does is drift inside and stand in a similar position anyway because he clearly doesn't want to be playing there. Edited May 26, 2015 by avfcwills10 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Benteke creates space for Gabby, not the other way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Agbonhlahor is part of the bigger problem, the players who aren't good enough yet are eating away our wage budget. Gabby, N'Zogbia, Bent, Given - get rid of them and we're looking at 200k minimum per week saved but it's a lot easier said than done because nobody really wants them. Back to Gabby though - in the last 5 seasons, he's scored 33 goals in 164 games. That's awful, it really is. Gabby is on the same wedge as nzog 65k a week No he isn't, and Zog doesn't even earn that. He took a vastly reduced salary in return for a four year deal. Still a waste like... My brother knows nzog and he said himself hes on 65k the same as gabby N'Zogbia maybe, although I always thought he was on around £50k. Gabby is on nowhere near that nowadays, we don't hand out them contracts anymore and he, aswell as us, sure as hell knows he isn't going to get that anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 This might be unpopular but I'd start him on Saturday - he doesn't show up nearly as often as he should but most of the times he does are in big games and you don't get much bigger than an FA Cup final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 If he starts then I think we will lose. We have a system that is working and we need to play N'Zogbia and Grealish to make it work. Gabby can come on and score the winner! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) He did absolutely nothing against Burnley to warrant a start on Saturday. Worst player on the pitch. Edited May 26, 2015 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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