Rugeley Villa Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 12 minutes ago, mjmooney said: What does 'spiritual' even mean? Mind body and spirit before everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 7 minutes ago, bickster said: Holy ghosts If you ever needed help for your drinking you’d probably end up in AA. If you stuck to the programme you would end up with an higher power. There’s been a few like you Bicks who have ended up on the God path and I use the word God as meaning anything you want it to mean in order to hand over your problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted 4 hours ago Moderator Share Posted 4 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: If you ever needed help for your drinking you’d probably end up in AA. If you stuck to the programme you would end up with an higher power. There’s been a few like you Bicks who have ended up on the God path and I use the word God as meaning anything you want it to mean in order to hand over your problems Firstly I really dont drink much (well under 20 units a week) and secondly any organisation that requires me suspend belief in reality is more likely to drive me to drink not away from it. I’m glad it works for you Ruge but for me, it would never work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, bickster said: Firstly I really dont drink much (well under 20 units a week) and secondly any organisation that requires me suspend belief in reality is more likely to drive me to drink not away from it. I’m glad it works for you Ruge but for me, it would never work. “Never “ is a big word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted 2 hours ago Author VT Supporter Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said: Mind body and spirit before everything I know what mind is. I know what body is. Spirit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I know what mind is. I know what body is. Spirit? A great Willie Nelson album A great band from California A budget airline 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I know what mind is. I know what body is. Spirit? Soul. We’ve already been through this, there are some on here content they don’t have a soul. If they are ok feeling they don’t have a soul, that’s fine. Personally, I believe I do. If someone has the science to disprove that, great, well done. I guess if I was trying to impose some science over the top of it, it would be called conscience or consciousness or self awareness. Whatever floats your goat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dog Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago On 23/09/2024 at 15:58, bickster said: AA recovery meetings are a new religion in all honesty How so? I've often heard a lot about the 12 steps, and how it ends in 'a higher power' (or alternative) - is that what you mean? Anyway, there's only one church and one god, Villa Park and Unai Emery. /religion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted 58 minutes ago Share Posted 58 minutes ago 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: I know what mind is. I know what body is. Spirit? Great band from Cali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted 58 minutes ago Share Posted 58 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Nor-Cal Villan said: A great Willie Nelson album A great band from California A budget airline Beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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