mjmooney Posted August 28 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 28 2 hours ago, MNVillan said: I do believe what the Church teaches Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 3 hours ago, fruitvilla said: nope Enlighten me then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted August 28 Administrator Share Posted August 28 9 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said: We are born to sin are we not? The thought process of sin often leads to actual sinning. What you mean nothing was sacrificed ? Sin is upsetting god. After years of looking I've not seen evidence that any god exists and the god of the bible cannot exist as the character described is self -contradictory. Any claim to "sin" and "sinners" has to be set aside until the god who is taking the offence is demonstrated. In your religion, is Jesus alive? If so, what precisely was the sacrifice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 25 minutes ago, limpid said: Sin is upsetting god. After years of looking I've not seen evidence that any god exists and the god of the bible cannot exist as the character described is self -contradictory. Any claim to "sin" and "sinners" has to be set aside until the god who is taking the offence is demonstrated. In your religion, is Jesus alive? If so, what precisely was the sacrifice? He sacrificed his body on the cross . Yes Jesus is alive . Not sure if you know the song by Wet Wet Wet “ Love is all around” well the lyrics in the song perfectly describe a relationship with Jesus . Edited August 28 by Rugeley Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 32 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Why? You also believe in some church teachings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: He sacrificed his body on the cross . Yes Jesus is alive . Not sure if you know the song by Wet Wet Wet “ Love is all around” well the lyrics in the song perfectly describe perfectly a relationship with Jesus . Because if you really love jesus, let it show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 3 minutes ago, Seat68 said: Because if you really love jesus, let it show. Great time of year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted August 28 Administrator Share Posted August 28 16 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: He sacrificed his body on the cross . Yes Jesus is alive . Not sure if you know the song by Wet Wet Wet “ Love is all around” well the lyrics in the song perfectly describe a relationship with Jesus . That's not what the bible says. He was resurrected bodily, which means he did not sacrifice his body, but had a day and a half resting. A human body is a pathetic offering from the god of 100s of billions of galaxies. Who offered the sacrifice to whom? If it worked, why don't we still practice death magic? Do Wet Wet Wet sing about the Jesus who, in his own words, came to bring division (or a sword depending on the translation)? Or that told slaves to obey their masters - even the cruel ones. Or did they just sing some meaningless platitudes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 28 Moderator Share Posted August 28 10 minutes ago, limpid said: Do Wet Wet Wet sing about the Jesus who, in his own words, came to bring division (or a sword depending on the translation)? Or that told slaves to obey their masters - even the cruel ones. Or did they just sing some meaningless platitudes? Troggs cover. I don’t think they really believed any of it. Don’t know if that helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 5 minutes ago, blandy said: Troggs cover. I don’t think they really believed any of it. Don’t know if that helps. Nah the Troggs one is about some bird from the local knocking shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 18 minutes ago, limpid said: That's not what the bible says. He was resurrected bodily, which means he did not sacrifice his body, but had a day and a half resting. A human body is a pathetic offering from the god of 100s of billions of galaxies. Who offered the sacrifice to whom? If it worked, why don't we still practice death magic? Do Wet Wet Wet sing about the Jesus who, in his own words, came to bring division (or a sword depending on the translation)? Or that told slaves to obey their masters - even the cruel ones. Or did they just sing some meaningless platitudes? We don’t need to practise it anymore because Jesus put an end to all that when he climbed up on our cross . Many Roman guards converted to Christianity after watching our lord get crucified. Jesus was and is a peaceful man I’ve told you this before. Those quotes you are misinterpreting them. You can’t even admit Jesus was peaceful because it strikes you with fear for believing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 There’s no arrogance like arrogance to deny God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 28 Moderator Share Posted August 28 9 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Nah the Troggs one is about some bird from the local knocking shop It’s the same song, dude. This therefore proves the non existence of love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, blandy said: It’s the same song, dude. This therefore proves the non existence of love. I know it is but it creates different feelings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 If anyone of you were stood before God/Jesus would you deny him ? Serious question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 28 Moderator Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: I know it is but it creates different feelings It’s no “Supernaut”, though is it? - “Got no religion…” You might be familiar with that one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 28 Moderator Share Posted August 28 Just now, Rugeley Villa said: If anyone of you were stood before God/Jesus would you deny him ? Serious question Deny him what? I'd pretty much ignore him, like I ignore members of the SWP or any other dickhead that tries to sell me a philosophy on the street 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, blandy said: It’s no “Supernaut”, though is it? - “Got no religion…” You might be familiar with that one. If you know you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, bickster said: Deny him what? I'd pretty much ignore him, like I ignore members of the SWP or any other dickhead that tries to sell me a philosophy on the street Well shame on you Bicks and there really is no reasoning with you on the subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 11 hours ago, DCJonah said: Throughout the history of the world, the amount of atrocities that have been carried out in the name of some God or another are mind blowing. I think religion has a lot to answer for in regards how **** up and horrible the world can be at times. That’s not a fair judgement . How many lives has religion saved? There’s nothing stopping me going out murdering people in your name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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