Mandy Lifeboats Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 13 minutes ago, Nor-Cal Villan said: The god I believe in isn’t short of cash, MEESTER!!! But it still won't stop me avoiding millions in tax by using offshore accounts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted August 27 Administrator Share Posted August 27 15 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, Ah, I was thinking of Genesis 2:17, but as the moon doesn't give light, that'll be another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, Rugeley Villa said: I’m not saying anyone is wrong I’m just saying what MY belief is Are you saying your belief might be wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 3 minutes ago, limpid said: Ah, I was thinking of Genesis 2:17, but as the moon doesn't give light, that'll be another one. Funnily enough ... so was I ... not 2:19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 7 minutes ago, fruitvilla said: Are you saying your belief might be wrong? For me it’s not wrong no . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: For me it’s not wrong no . So ... you seem to be in this strange position of believing you are not wrong, there is no chance of you being wrong ... but 12 minutes ago, fruitvilla said: I’m not saying anyone is wrong While you are not saying anyone is wrong ... do you believe they are wrong? Do you understand why I might be confused by all this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 It always annoys me when I see a sports star or musician talking about how god had a plan for them. If you truly believed God had a plan for you to become a successful millionaire than surely you also have to believe that God had a plan for children to be blown to bits in Gaza. Which is **** up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted August 27 Administrator Share Posted August 27 5 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: For me it’s not wrong no . Surely the bible teaches that something can't be right or wrong for you. Something is objectively right or it is not. This is the meaning of righteousness. Also 1 Peter 3:15 requires you to give a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: It always annoys me when I see a sports star or musician talking about how god had a plan for them. If you truly believed God had a plan for you to become a successful millionaire than surely you also have to believe that God had a plan for children to be blown to bits in Gaza. Which is **** up. The whole thing is strange. Players crossing themselves when going on to the pitch ... thanking God for a goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Just now, fruitvilla said: So ... you seem to be in this strange position of believing you are not wrong, there is no chance of you being wrong ... but While you are not saying anyone is wrong ... do you believe they are wrong? Do you understand why I might be confused by all this? Because only my belief is important. If you tell me now I am wrong or you believe I’m wrong then that’s ok . Why is it so bad to believe in god ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, Rugeley Villa said: Because only my belief is important. Why is only your belief important? I would argue, how accurate is your belief would be more important to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted August 27 Administrator Share Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Because only my belief is important. If you tell me now I am wrong or you believe I’m wrong then that’s ok . Why is it so bad to believe in god ? 1 Peter 3:15, give your reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 5 minutes ago, limpid said: Surely the bible teaches that something can't be right or wrong for you. Something is objectively right or it is not. This is the meaning of righteousness. Also 1 Peter 3:15 requires you to give a reason. I’ve already explained a few pages back to some degree but I’ll go a bit further and say Jesus suffered for our sins. That’s enough for me to confess to him as my lord . Jesus loves me and feels my pain . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Why is it so bad to believe in god ? It is not bad per se. I have heard some people describe religion/god as training wheels for adults. Eventually, some of us venture on our life's path without those wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Just now, fruitvilla said: It is not bad per se. I have heard some people describe religion/god as training wheels for adults. Eventually, some of us venture on our life's path without those wheels. I can relate to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Just now, Rugeley Villa said: degree but I’ll go a bit further and say Jesus suffered for our sins And the irony is the original sin was thinking in terms of sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, fruitvilla said: Why is only your belief important? I would argue, how accurate is your belief would be more important to you? Because without my belief I have nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Because without my belief I have nothing What? You believe your beliefs won't be replaced by other beliefs? It is like you are not worried about living what might be a lie, because that lie somehow comforts you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 27 Moderator Share Posted August 27 This path you are on? Why did it seemingly give way and make you fall down a mountain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, fruitvilla said: What? You believe your beliefs won't be replaced by other beliefs? It is like you are not worried about living what might be a lie, because that lie somehow comforts you? To believe or not to believe . To not believe takes away any other thought that doesn’t exist within me anyway . Again I can relate to the comfort thing. I’ve experienced things not of this world or that are hard to come across in this world for me to believe that the soul carries in which only strengthened my beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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