pacbuddies Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I now firmly believe lots of the players have undermined McLeish & I have some sympathy for the bloke Noooooo......don't start having sympathy for McLeish. He was useless at SHA and useless at Villa long before this shit happened! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Denis is spot on tbh, the key word is "Proffesional" footballer We don't have many We have no winners in a footballing sense Just at the bar and cashpoint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 You sure the key word isnt "professional" footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 4, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 4, 2012 I'm off out in a minute with a olympic bronze medal winning athlete, he drank and partied when he was an athlete. So Bicks hiow many 'incidents' like this was he involved in? Quite a few I should imagine, most young people have been. Have you never drunkenly kicked a door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I'm off out in a minute with a olympic bronze medal winning athlete, he drank and partied when he was an athlete. Steve Smith.... To be fair high jumpers are a bit different, Javier Sotomayor was into cocaine and Patrik Sjöberg was always out partying. So if you want to choose ‘athletes’ choose another event Anyway more worrying with Smith was the fact that he spent all that time trying to rebuild the Liverpool Overhead... :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 You sure the key word isnt "professional" footballer Innit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughes Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I'm off out in a minute with a olympic bronze medal winning athlete, he drank and partied when he was an athlete. So Bicks hiow many 'incidents' like this was he involved in? Quite a few I should imagine, most young people have been. Have you never drunkenly kicked a door? Did he drink five days before the Olympics? Or five days before a major competition? Unless your friend is participating in casting, I doubt it. I do not care if the players go clubbing off-season. I also think you are completely wrong when equalling professional athletes to us "normal" folks. You can function well in your job, I assume, even if you are on the piss now and then. These guys cannot because, in lack of better words, "their body and mind is their work". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 4, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 4, 2012 Denis is spot on tbh, the key word is "Proffesional" footballer We don't have many We have no winners in a footballing sense Just at the bar and cashpoint Thats twice you've misspelt professional, I'd kick a door if I were you ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 4, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 4, 2012 I'm off out in a minute with a olympic bronze medal winning athlete, he drank and partied when he was an athlete. So Bicks hiow many 'incidents' like this was he involved in? Quite a few I should imagine, most young people have been. Have you never drunkenly kicked a door? Did he drink five days before the Olympics? Or five days before a major competition? Unless your friend is participating in casting, I doubt it. I do not care if the players go clubbing off-season. I also think you are completely wrong when equalling professional athletes to us "normal" folks. You can function well in your job, I assume, even if you are on the piss now and then. These guys cannot because, in lack of better words, "their body and mind is their work". Yeah tell that to God, tell that to the lawyer that goes out for a drink or two and wins his case the next day, I myself intend on going out for a few tonight and fully intend doing a great job in work tomorrow, where I will have to be fully concentrated on the job for 8 hours and given its FA Cup final day, I'll be bloody busy, a new problem to solve every 20 seconds or so. It doesn't matter what you do in life, you need to let off steam, different people do it in different ways. This on the face of the evidence is a storm in a teacup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughes Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Yeah tell that to God, tell that to the lawyer that goes out for a drink or two and wins his case the next day, I myself intend on going out for a few tonight and fully intend doing a great job in work tomorrow, where I will have to be fully concentrated on the job for 8 hours and given its FA Cup final day, I'll be bloody busy, a new problem to solve every 20 seconds or so. It doesn't matter what you do in life, you need to let off steam, different people do it in different ways. This on the face of the evidence is a storm in a teacup Well, in fact I AM a lawyer. Every now and then I take clients out and it gets late. I can tell you that I am much less effective at work the next day than if I had stayed at home. And, you may "intend" to do a good job tomorrow, but if you think you are as good at your job after a late night out as you would be if you stayed home, you are in self denial and just incredibly deluded my friend. Anyway, this is about footballers playing for the Villa, not solicitors or whatever you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 # Well, in fact I AM a lawyer. Every now and then I take clients out and it gets late. I can tell you that I am much less effective at work the next day than if I had stayed at home.good thing the players were off the next day, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I'm off out in a minute with a olympic bronze medal winning athlete, he drank and partied when he was an athlete. So Bicks hiow many 'incidents' like this was he involved in? Quite a few I should imagine, most young people have been. Have you never drunkenly kicked a door? No because I would have been sacked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Quite a few I should imagine, most young people have been. Have you never drunkenly kicked a door? No because I would have been sacked! do you regularly get drunk at work or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I'm off out in a minute with a olympic bronze medal winning athlete, he drank and partied when he was an athlete. So Bicks hiow many 'incidents' like this was he involved in? Quite a few I should imagine, most young people have been. Have you never drunkenly kicked a door? Did he drink five days before the Olympics? Or five days before a major competition? Unless your friend is participating in casting, I doubt it. I do not care if the players go clubbing off-season. I also think you are completely wrong when equalling professional athletes to us "normal" folks. You can function well in your job, I assume, even if you are on the piss now and then. These guys cannot because, in lack of better words, "their body and mind is their work". Yeah tell that to God, tell that to the lawyer that goes out for a drink or two and wins his case the next day, I myself intend on going out for a few tonight and fully intend doing a great job in work tomorrow, where I will have to be fully concentrated on the job for 8 hours and given its FA Cup final day, I'll be bloody busy, a new problem to solve every 20 seconds or so. It doesn't matter what you do in life, you need to let off steam, different people do it in different ways. This on the face of the evidence is a storm in a teacup agreed, i got pissed up at the darts last night. had about 4 hours sleep did a pretty decent days work. when i was a lot younger i got into some arguments. Herds a young lad, its what they do. the only people making them role models are us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 agreed, i got pissed up at the darts last night. had about 4 hours sleep did a pretty decent days work. when i was a lot younger i got into some arguments. Slightly OT but I went last night too, how good was it, miles better than the tournament at the Civic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Collins is a disgrace. Herd and Delph are just young and dumb, but Collins should really know better. Total knucklehead. He should be shipped out ASAP. This whole calamity just shows how little control McLeish has over his players and how little they respect him, and the club as a whole. The whole team needs an overhaul. Pathetic and embarrassing situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 What bannan did earlier this season is a hundred times worse than this and he seemed to get defended a lot for it on her: Maybe because MoN didn't sign him :winkold: This isn't that terrible, they've acted like pricks but balotelli is a massive, crazy prick and man city are on the way to winning the league. This in no way excuses any of the shit served up this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 agreed, i got pissed up at the darts last night. had about 4 hours sleep did a pretty decent days work. when i was a lot younger i got into some arguments. Herds a young lad, its what they do. the only people making them role models are us. I assume that you are not a professional athlete earning £10k+ per week and taking the hopes of 1,000's of people into a huge game on Sunday! An extra 1% can make all the difference in a professional football game - our lads lose an extra 1%, I can't imagine VdV was out on the piss on Tuesday night. These lads are massively privileged and they haven't got a scooby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Yeah tell that to God, tell that to the lawyer that goes out for a drink or two and wins his case the next day, I myself intend on going out for a few tonight and fully intend doing a great job in work tomorrow, where I will have to be fully concentrated on the job for 8 hours and given its FA Cup final day, I'll be bloody busy, a new problem to solve every 20 seconds or so. It doesn't matter what you do in life, you need to let off steam, different people do it in different ways. This on the face of the evidence is a storm in a teacupI do hope you won't be kicking doors in or behaving like a complete wally, Herd-sytyle And will there be loads of people ready to film you on their smartphiones, post clips of you behaving drunkenly on Youtube and thus bring disrepute on your employers? And are there loads of young people who look up to you as a role model who you wil be letting down? I think the analogies people are drawing with their own working situations are a bit flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 The term 'role model' is the biggest load of bollocks going. If kids need to use footballers as 'role models' to influence their life then they are already ****. Chris Herd kicking a door does not suddenly confuse a child over what is right or wrong. They will either do it or not do it placed in a similar situation and Chris Herd will not be at the forefront of their minds or the reasoning/excuse for them doing it. Bored of this, I'm off to kick a door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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