Jarpie Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 It's also good to remember that N'Zogbia was actually very good in Wigan, so the club probably thought he's worth the salary. I remember someone saying that Makoun is at 30-35k / week when he was signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Gabby can go, no way he is worth 50K a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesWithe Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Warnock - 40 Collins - 35 Hutton - 25 Delph - 30 :shock: :shock: :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Delph on 30k? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesWithe Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Delph on 30k? Really? In reckon its at least 25k...remember the big chase to get this wonderkid for 6 million :oops: When are our young players on 5-10k renewing contracts because you can be damn sure the agents will be saying if Delph is worth this much etc my players is worth 25k too :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Two biggest wastes of money ever!Bigger wastes than Heskey and Beye? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Wow, nice work there! However it has to be considdered that our revenue will increase (maybe matchday too, unless Randy screws up the manager choice) thus the percentage will fall further. What is the current thinking as to a 'safe' working percentage? actually our revenue will probably stay static (£92mill in 2010/11 from finishing 9th) from finishing lower, but offset by increased revenue from Macron and possibly a cup run. i think Randy will be aiming to keep the % at 70%. 66% is the common 'good practice' number quoted generally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 **Ender 4 you forgot Petrov as well. I kept Petrov out as this is a calculation going forward, and i don't see Petrov playing for us again. And the wages already in his contract will now be being paid by medical insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy_Evergo Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 plus medical insurance (10%) = £44m plus bonus (15%) = £46m Bonus calculation seems light. I would say you would need to add another £2-3m to get the 15%. Otherwise, that is great work and we must now be getting to the place where we can start to rebuild the squad with cheaper options than we have let go recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 plus medical insurance (10%) = £44m plus bonus (15%) = £46m Bonus calculation seems light. I would say you would need to add another £2-3m to get the 15%. Otherwise, that is great work and we must now be getting to the place where we can start to rebuild the squad with cheaper options than we have let go recently. Bonus!!!! For last seasons sh*te!!!! :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 plus medical insurance (10%) = £44m plus bonus (15%) = £46m Bonus calculation seems light. I would say you would need to add another £2-3m to get the 15%. Otherwise, that is great work and we must now be getting to the place where we can start to rebuild the squad with cheaper options than we have let go recently. :oops: corrected it now, will repost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 My reckoning on 2012/13 wages before we sign any new players. (don't worry about exact figures for each player, some will be higher, some will be lower). Bent - 70 k per wk Ireland - 65 Given - 60 Dunne - 55 N'Zogbia - 55 Agbonlahor - 50 Makoun - 40 Warnock - 40 Collins - 35 Hutton - 25 Delph - 25 Holman - 25 Delfouneso - 15 Albrighton - 15 Herd - 15 Bannan - 10 Clark - 10 Stevens - 10 Lichaj - 5 Baker - 5 Weimann - 5 Carruthers - 5 Gardner - 5 Youth players - 25 Total Basic wage = £670k per week = £34.8m plus NI @12.8% = £4.4m = £39.2m plus medical insurance @10% = £3.5m = £42.7m plus bonus @10% of basic = £3.5m = £46.2m Total Players wage cost = £46 Mill Average wage cost for players = £38k per week Manager @£40k/wk = £2.7m (inc NI & bonus) Other Staff - £10m Total Salaries = £59m Wage to revenue turnover = 59/90 = 65.6% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Out: Warnock Collins Delfounseo Delph Hutton Wage = £140k per week In: J Olsson - £30k LB - £30k Diame - £40k Moses - £30k Clyne - £20k Striker - £30k Wages - £180k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I think the high wages are responsible for the performances. I get the impression that they are all in one big comfort zone. Picking up a small fortune whilst under no pressure at all to achieve anything. Great facilities, historic club, great stadium, great wages, no pressure. Sounds like the Good life to me. Thats why they performed for and didn`t like o`neill and houllier, both of those guys kicked them up the arse. I`d rather have a squad and wage bill like norwich, keep them hungry and motivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Two biggest wastes of money ever!Bigger wastes than Heskey and Beye? I don't think so.Oh, yes, there were understood [square brackets]... [of the players remaining in the squad]. Although £9.5m + £55-60k pw for Zoggy has got to be up there with the most wasteful of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Out: Warnock Collins Delfounseo Delph Hutton Wage = £140k per week In - Nobody £140k per week savedAre you sure RL's vision isn't more like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Out: Warnock Collins Delfounseo Delph Hutton Wage = £140k per week In - Nobody £140k per week savedAre you sure RL's vision isn't more like this? I dont think its far off that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Delph signed a new contract last year under Houllier so I'd expect him to be around 25k a week now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSTERYMAN Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 In Feb this year after the Villa Fulham reserves game I met Alex McCleish at BH for the second time . This was in response to a letter I had sent into him about the broken promises from the first meeting and generally telling him we all felt about the football and his signings . I promised him I would not divulge everything that was said but was amazed at his honesty and have to say as a Man I like him but that did not change my opinion about his appointment and what we were watching . I am still in contact with him and actually text him the day he resigned I still think he is a decent bloke but simply not for AVFC , he never was ! But what he was very vocal about was 2 things one being that RL would provide money for signings in the summer and if there was a need to pay a certain player 100k a week we would but the pot was the pot . He said he was on the same page as RL about this that the wages were out of proportion to our turnover and we were over paying people and they were past their best. I took from this if there were special players then they would go out and pay it Darren Bent is a prime example but they couldn't do it on 10 of them . He said we would need 5 players because whoever was in charge would be faced with the same problem that the seniors are not good enough and don't care enough . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I am still in contact with him and actually text him the day he resigned Really ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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