Black Ops 2

[kurtsimonw]

Yep, 22. Though when the Sentry gun is the 10th one, I don't imagine they're going to dominate. You'll be glad to know your favourites RC-XD and Dogs do return.

-RC-XD (A remote-controlled car packed with explosives.) - 325 points

-UAV (Shows enemies on the mini-map.) - 375 points

-Hunter Killer (Airborne drone that seeks out and destroys a nearby target.) - 400 points

-Care Package (Air drop a random Scorestreak.) - 450 points

-Counter-UAV (Temporarily disables enemy radar.) - 475 points

-Guardian (Projects microwave field which stuns and impairs enemies.) - 500 points

-Hellstorm Missile (An air-to-surface missile which can be scattered into a cluster bomb while falling.) - 525 points

-Lightning Strike (Launch a coordinated lightning strike on three locations.) - 550 points

-Death Machine (Your own personal handheld mini-gun.) - 600 points

-Sentry Gun (An automatic sentry gun which can be remote-controlled.) - 650 points

-War Machine (Grenade launcher with rapid, semi-automatic firing.) - 700 points

-Dragonfire (Remote-controlled quad-rotor with lightweight machine gun.) - 725 points

-AGR (Air drop an autonomous ground robot that searches for and destroys enemies and can be remote controlled.) - 800 points

-Stealth Chopper (Call in a stealth helicopter which does not appear on the enemy’s mini-map.) - 850 points

-Orbital VSAT (Shows both enemy position and direction on the mini-map, cannot be shot down.) - 900 points

-Escort Drone (Get personal air support from an escort drone.) - 1000 points

-Warthog (Jet aircraft that provides close air support with several strafe runs.) - 1025 points

-EMP Systems (Temporarily disables enemy electronics.) - 1050 points

-Lodestar (Lase missile targets remotely from the Lodestar.) - 1150 points

-VTOL Warship (Be the gunner of a powerful VTOL Warship.) - 1200 points

-Canine Unit (Attack dogs that hunt down the enemy.) - 1275 points

-Swarm (Call in a swarm of lethal Hunter Killer drones that search and destroy enemies.) - 1400 points

[Rino8]

All seems good, actually.

Not to take anything away from Treyarch but they get a little fortunate that IW have **** their last 2 games up, meaning that all it takes for them to be succesful is not be IW.

A lot of pople didn't like Black Ops, though. It's not the 14 year old quick scopers game of choice.

[The_Rev]

I still think MW2 was the best game in the series. They might have made MW3 in the offices that Infinity Ward used to use, but it wasnt really Infinity Ward who made the game was it?

[Rino8]

I still think MW2 was the best game in the series. They might have made MW3 in the offices that Infinity Ward used to use, but it wasnt really Infinity Ward who made the game was it?

That's true, I think IW would have made at the very least better maps than those in MW3. Althought I don't know how much involvement IW had, I mean, their name is still on the game, and Robert Bowling still tweeted about every detail with insane enthusiasm.

[Brumerican]

22? Sigh. With any luck the support streaks have left the game though, and with kills now being the only way to get killstreaks the insane amount of air support/kill streaks in general should be down

You are going to be in for a shock when you hear about scorestreaks instead of killstreaks then.

[The_Rev]

Robert Bowling was a PR guy. A hype man. A cheerleader. He had about as much to do with the actual making of the game as General Krulak had with the picking of the Villa team. The real talent at Infinity Ward would have been West & Zamplella and the 50 or so other guys who all left the company after the shit with Activision. They all walked into new jobs instantly too. It will be very interesting to see what their new game is.

[packoman]

Has there been any word on Respawn's first game?

[The_Rev]

Nope. I expect it will be either be a launch title for the next gen consoles or something that at least gets released in the first six months of the new consoles.

[Rino8]

Robert Bowling was a PR guy. A hype man. A cheerleader. He had about as much to do with the actual making of the game as General Krulak had with the picking of the Villa team. The real talent at Infinity Ward would have been West & Zamplella and the 50 or so other guys who all left the company after the shit with Activision. They all walked into new jobs instantly too. It will be very interesting to see what their new game is.

I know that, but my point is if he stayed, how much of the IW team stayed too?

You are going to be in for a shock when you hear about scorestreaks instead of killstreaks then.

I meant scorestreaks.

I was talking about killstreak kills not adding to others.

[Brumerican]

You are going to be in for a shock when you hear about scorestreaks instead of killstreaks then.

I meant scorestreaks.

I was talking about killstreak kills not adding to others.

Capping flags (Amongst many other things)will help you get your killstreak rewards now so I was just letting you know that it won't just be kills that get you them . In theory you could get attack dogs without ever killing somebody If the rumours are true.

[The_Rev]

Robert Bowling was a PR guy. A hype man. A cheerleader. He had about as much to do with the actual making of the game as General Krulak had with the picking of the Villa team. The real talent at Infinity Ward would have been West & Zamplella and the 50 or so other guys who all left the company after the shit with Activision. They all walked into new jobs instantly too. It will be very interesting to see what their new game is.

I know that, but my point is if he stayed, how much of the IW team stayed too?

Of the core development team? Hardly any. Bowling would have had next to nothing to do with them anyway, his job was more to do with marketing than development. He is only really famous because he did interviews with the press and ran the IW Twitter account. I wouldnt be surprised if most of his work was away from the IW offices where all the drama happened.

[kurtsimonw]

I played MW2 a lot (my first CoD played from launch day), but it's so broken. 4, Waw and BO didn't have anything that was particularly game-breaking, so they're all above it for me. It did have some very cool things about it (new killstreak system, pro perks, great maps) but the actual way it played was poor.

As Rino said before, Treyarch have to do nothing at all really. IW/whoever thinks of these cool new ideas, but **** up the game, Treyarch just copy the ideas with minor adjustments and have solid gameplay.

OT but: What was the deal with the whole IW/Activision thing anyway? I never really understood what went on.

[Brumerican]

On the website www.blackops2forum.com there is a poster called "Scuba Steve".

Come on now....reveal thyself !!!!

[The_Rev]

OT but: What was the deal with the whole IW/Activision thing anyway? I never really understood what went on.

It was over several things, mostly money and creative freedom though. Activision appear to be terrible people to work for, they wanted Infinity Ward just to crank out WW2 game after WW2 game. Infinity Ward wanted more creative freedom (they had to fight hard to get COD4 to be a modern warfare game) and they wanted more money in the form of royalties from sales rather than just a salary. They were entitled to it too, it was their game after all. Activision just own the branding. IW were also very unhappy that Treyarch were brought in to work on Call of Duty games, there are quite a few very noticeable "**** you" gestures to Activision in both COD4 and MW2 if you know where to look. There are a ton of articles about the dispute and the court case if you search on Google. Both sides will claim they won, Activision still get to make $$$ from Call of Duty, but they had to pay ex Infinity Ward guys an absolute **** ton of cash in compensation.

[HolteEndRob]

Liking the look of some of the maps from what I've seen so far.

[kurtsimonw]

[AVFCforever1991]

Can not wait!

[dubbs]

Loved the Zombies on BO so cant wait for this - the trailer looks ace.

[Risso]

Black Ops was excellent, so I'll be getting the new one.

[The_Rev]