Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 46 minutes ago, villa4europe said: I'll put it here rather than the Grealish thread Kevin De Bruyne.... City's best player, real argument for best midfielder in football... Just hasn't got that star appeal has he? Watching a bit (not a lot tbf) of the celebrations and not seen him once I'm sure theres the right appreciation of him here but do kids really have KDB posters on their wall? He just seems biege Spending the vast majority of his career at such a soulless project will have an affect on how he is perceived after he retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: I'll put it here rather than the Grealish thread Kevin De Bruyne.... City's best player, real argument for best midfielder in football... Just hasn't got that star appeal has he? Watching a bit (not a lot tbf) of the celebrations and not seen him once I'm sure theres the right appreciation of him here but do kids really have KDB posters on their wall? He just seems biege It's why they spent 100m on Grealish. Even if he wasn't a world class player, the fact that he's not some boring robot like the rest of the squad is a big deal for City's image. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 How awfully convenient for them to get Burnley on the opening weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, The_Steve said: How awfully convenient for them to get Burnley on the opening weekend Or the PL got sold the story from sky that they want kompany vs man city on the opening weekend guaranteed TV game and interest Its not so much that they've given city an "easy" game it's that they bow down to the TV companies Im also sure that the champions used to get a home game to start 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 On 15/06/2023 at 10:30, The_Steve said: How awfully convenient for them to get Burnley on the opening weekend On 15/06/2023 at 10:46, villa4europe said: Or the PL got sold the story from sky that they want kompany vs man city on the opening weekend guaranteed TV game and interest Its not so much that they've given city an "easy" game it's that they bow down to the TV companies Im also sure that the champions used to get a home game to start Man City haven't had a home game opener since 2016/17 season (Sunderland at home). Last season they had West Ham away. Season before that, Spurs away. Season before that, Wolves away. Season before that, West Ham away. Season before that, Arsenal away. Season before that, Brighton away. Not everything is a conspiracy lads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 not sure suggesting that the PL picked a good TV game for the opening fixture is a conspiracy theory you don't think the magic PL fixture machine takes that in to consideration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: not sure suggesting that the PL picked a good TV game for the opening fixture is a conspiracy theory you don't think the magic PL fixture machine takes that in to consideration? The PL is so massively consumed that there are basic story lines you can attach to almost any fixture. If this was a thing, why did it not happen last season? Or in 2021/22? Or in 2020/21? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, bobzy said: The PL is so massively consumed that there are basic story lines you can attach to almost any fixture. If this was a thing, why did it not happen last season? Or in 2021/22? Or in 2020/21? you mean last season when the opening fixture was patrick vieira's crystal palace vs his old club arsenal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: you mean last season when the opening fixture was patrick vieira's crystal palace vs his old club arsenal? A game picked so selectively that, if I did ever read about it, it has been completely eradicated from my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, villa4europe said: not sure suggesting that the PL picked a good TV game for the opening fixture is a conspiracy theory you don't think the magic PL fixture machine takes that in to consideration? Thing is, though - it isn’t a good TV game. It’s just an interesting back story. People aren’t wanking themselves into a fury over the idea of watching Man City batter a newly promoted side. There’s an angle you can attach to most fixtures in the league, and the story will always be bigged up by the PL and Sky to get viewers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted June 16, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 hours ago, KentVillan said: Thing is, though - it isn’t a good TV game. People aren’t wanking themselves into a fury over the idea of watching Man City. You could have just posted this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Are the fixtures random? I always assumed there was a level of manual engineering going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Are the fixtures random? I always assumed there was a level of manual engineering going on. They set some rules that dictate a few things (certain teams not playing at home at the same time, no team having more than 2 consecutive home or away games, and some specific things) but then leave it to a random automated generator to do most of it. Edited June 16, 2023 by MrBlack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mic09 Posted June 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, MrBlack said: They set some rules that dictate a few things (certain teams not playing at home at the same time, no team having more than 2 consecutive home or away games, and some specific things) but then leave it to a random automated generator to do most of it. And then they re-run the generator until they are happy with the way it looks 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 There is a huge level of manipulation when it comes to figures. Back when it was just the 'big 4', why did they always play each other on the same round of fixtures. The so-called Super Sundays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, Xela said: There is a huge level of manipulation when it comes to figures. Back when it was just the 'big 4', why did they always play each other on the same round of fixtures. The so-called Super Sundays. I think you'll find it was called 'Grand Slam Sunday' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: I think you'll find it was called 'Grand Slam Sunday' They were usually gash 0-0's from memory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Xela said: They were usually gash 0-0's from memory! Yeah absolutely terrible but the sky tragics would go on like it was some 0-0 tactical chess match and thus very exciting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, VillaJ100 said: Yeah absolutely terrible but the sky tragics would go on like it was some 0-0 tactical chess match and thus very exciting So true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Does it matter if its random? Don't American sports plan it out so big games happen on important days? I'm pretty sure the NBA pick big teams to play each other on Christmas day. Everyone plays everyone twice anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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