The_Steve Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 They want to sell a few more thousand discounted tickets to tourists on Groupon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2023 Stadium investments don't count towards FFP so in theory it's just more seats = more ticket sales = more revenue = more FFP headroom. Then they just claim that all the tickets were sold and a few (thousand) people must not've turned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Stadium investments don't count towards FFP so in theory it's just more seats = more ticket sales = more revenue = more FFP headroom. Then they just claim that all the tickets were sold and a few (thousand) people must not've turned up. This ^. Fictional revenue from ghosts buying tickets. No doubt they'll have Edgar Neubauer and Snowball 1 attending next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 49 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Stadium investments don't count towards FFP so in theory it's just more seats = more ticket sales = more revenue = more FFP headroom. Then they just claim that all the tickets were sold and a few (thousand) people must not've turned up. Daddy Sheikh buy up some empty seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, delboy54 said: Just read on the BBC footy website that they are planning an extension to their ground to bring it up to 60k (even more empty seats). Costs to be about 300 million... I wonder what dodgy deals are being done to push that through...? They are obviously not worried in the slightest about the charges being brought against them... I'm certain they will escape this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Man I'd love them to be kicked out the PL. Then they can mess off and do the super league with Juve and Barca who need it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, fightoffyour said: Stadium investments don't count towards FFP so in theory it's just more seats = more ticket sales = more revenue = more FFP headroom. Then they just claim that all the tickets were sold and a few (thousand) people must not've turned up. It was crazy how many empty seats there were for their Champions League QF last week. They can’t fill what they have for massive games. Absolute joke. Ticket revenue for FFP should only include people that turn up to avoid this loophole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2023 I'd prefer if we just did an ancient Egypt style historical deletion of them. Delete their entries in the history books, Dremel the name off the trophies, bulldoze the stadium... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Chindie said: I'd prefer if we just did an ancient Egypt style historical deletion of them. Delete their entries in the history books, Dremel the name off the trophies, bulldoze the stadium... Works for me. Can we get a public vote on this maybe! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Genie said: It was crazy how many empty seats there were for their Champions League QF last week. They can’t fill what they have for massive games. Absolute joke. Ticket revenue for FFP should only include people that turn up to avoid this loophole. What actually is the justification for expansion? The minus 30,000 people on a ST waiting list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 minute ago, fightoffyour said: What actually is the justification for expansion? The minus 30,000 people on a ST waiting list? I assume it’s purely to inflate their income. The amount of empty seats will be harder to hide though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Genie said: I assume it’s purely to inflate their income. The amount of empty seats will be harder to hide though. That's the reason for expansion, it's not the justification for it (i.e., they can't fill what they already have, not even close). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: That's the reason for expansion, it's not the justification for it (i.e., they can't fill what they already have, not even close). They don’t need to justify it do they? They are spending money to increase their FFP allowance. It’s an indirect investment in the squad. Once or twice a season they probably genuinely sell out so they’ll say it helps for the Manchester Derby and maybe when Liverpool visit. Edited April 18, 2023 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Genie said: They don’t need to justify it do they? They are spending money to increase their FFP allowance. It’s an indirect investment in the squad. Once or twice a season they probably genuinely sell out so they’ll say it helps for the Manchester Derby and maybe when Liverpool visit. No they don't actually need to justify, it's just so blatantly obvious that it's another form of "cooking the books" in an FFP sense at least. Do they claim that they actually do sell out? Have a waiting list? Are expecting greater numbers of fans in the coming seasons? Perhaps the Euro bid is the sole excuse? It's going to look even more odd when there's simply another 6,000 empty seats extra and their ticket revenue is increasing. Although this coming from the club that have emails plainly stating "Tell the sheikh to send X another £38 m by Tuesday to cover their sponsorship deal", it's hardly a surprise that they don't even care about the cover up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: No they don't actually need to justify, it's just so blatantly obvious that it's another form of "cooking the books" in an FFP sense at least. Do they claim that they actually do sell out? Have a waiting list? Are expecting greater numbers of fans in the coming seasons? Perhaps the Euro bid is the sole excuse? It's going to look even more odd when there's simply another 6,000 empty seats extra and their ticket revenue is increasing. Although this coming from the club that have emails plainly stating "Tell the sheikh to send X another £38 m by Tuesday to cover their sponsorship deal", it's hardly a surprise that they don't even care about the cover up. Bingo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: No they don't actually need to justify, it's just so blatantly obvious that it's another form of "cooking the books" in an FFP sense at least. Do they claim that they actually do sell out? Have a waiting list? Are expecting greater numbers of fans in the coming seasons? Perhaps the Euro bid is the sole excuse? It's going to look even more odd when there's simply another 6,000 empty seats extra and their ticket revenue is increasing. Although this coming from the club that have emails plainly stating "Tell the sheikh to send X another £38 m by Tuesday to cover their sponsorship deal", it's hardly a surprise that they don't even care about the cover up. The proposals aren't just an extra 6k or so seats FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2023 34 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: That's the reason for expansion, it's not the justification for it (i.e., they can't fill what they already have, not even close). Is that actually true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Another factor is the political power of the gentrification of that area of Manchester brings, will be beneficial if there is any investigation into their corruption as neither political party will want to upset the UAE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 If they do get these stadium plans agreed, along with all the other infrastructure that has gone in the running costs of Man City FC will be huge. If the owners leave, or they are pushed out like Roman Abramovic was then they could be in major trouble finding a new buyer willing to lose so much money as the Arabs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, sidcow said: Is that actually true? That they don't fill the seats? Have a look at their CL QF from last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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