villa4europe Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Its beyond scattergun at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 How are you going to make a team out of those lot. It will be impossible to know their best XI . It will be a nightmare to keep them all happy. Lots of players are going to retire prematurely with less than 10 appearances a season. Look at Ings today leaving because of lack of starts. And thats with 2 strikers on the books. Ps and dont forget the 100 million they blew on Lukaku. They only got 8 million back in loan fees for this season. The money might be good but the culture is going to be abysmal. Will they not be able to register all their players next season ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 This is the squad list from Wikipedia and not including Lukaku, Hudson Odoi and a couple more players on loan. Unsustainable and Boehly is a clown No. Pos. Nation Player 1 GK ESP Kepa Arrizabalaga 4 DF FRA Benoît Badiashile 5 MF ITA Jorginho (vice-captain) 6 DF BRA Thiago Silva 7 MF FRA N'Golo Kanté 8 MF CRO Mateo Kovačić 9 FW GAB Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang 10 MF USA Christian Pulisic 11 FW POR João Félix (on loan from Atlético Madrid) 12 MF ENG Ruben Loftus-Cheek 13 GK ENG Marcus Bettinelli 14 DF ENG Trevoh Chalobah 15 FW UKR Mykhailo Mudryk 16 GK SEN Édouard Mendy 17 MF ENG Raheem Sterling 18 FW ALB Armando Broja 19 MF ENG Mason Mount No. Pos. Nation Player 20 MF SUI Denis Zakaria (on loan from Juventus) 21 DF ENG Ben Chilwell 22 MF MAR Hakim Ziyech 23 MF ENG Conor Gallagher 24 DF ENG Reece James 26 DF SEN Kalidou Koulibaly 27 FW CIV David Datro Fofana 28 DF ESP César Azpilicueta (captain) 29 MF GER Kai Havertz 30 MF ENG Carney Chukwuemeka 32 DF ESP Marc Cucurella 33 DF FRA Wesley Fofana 36 GK USA Gabriel Slonina 42 DF ENG Bashir Humphreys 56 MF JAM Omari Hutchinson 67 MF ENG Lewis Hall — MF BRA Andrey Santos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_F.C.#Players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I don’t even think they bought this many players when Abramovich took over in his first season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Matt Law at The Telegraph saying that Chelsea have enquired about Bissouma now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Its grotesque what they’re doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 13 hours ago, Xela said: A lot of it is on unproven players. Moneyball on steroids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Apparently had a £55m bid turned down for Moises Caicedo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, The_Steve said: Moneyball on steroids Its the opposite of money ball, there's seemingly no analysis to it let alone traditional scouting Its peacocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Its the opposite of money ball, there's seemingly no analysis to it let alone traditional scouting Its peacocking But haven’t they taken the whole of Brightons recruitment team, surely they know what they’re doing? It’s all a bit weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: But haven’t they taken the whole of Brightons recruitment team, surely they know what they’re doing? It’s all a bit weird. I think it's man utds "we're still a big club everything is fine look at us buying who we want" transfer policy on steroids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted January 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Its the opposite of money ball, there's seemingly no analysis to it let alone traditional scouting Its peacocking Exactly. Moneyball is about taking players others wouldn't based on deep statistics. If anything that's more like what we are doing with Moreno and Duran. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted January 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said: How are you going to make a team out of those lot. It will be impossible to know their best XI . It will be a nightmare to keep them all happy. Lots of players are going to retire prematurely with less than 10 appearances a season. Look at Ings today leaving because of lack of starts. And thats with 2 strikers on the books. Ps and dont forget the 100 million they blew on Lukaku. They only got 8 million back in loan fees for this season. The money might be good but the culture is going to be abysmal. Will they not be able to register all their players next season ? I don't see how they can, unless they get half the first team to dress like teenagers and somehow convince officials that they are under "21". Lots of fake IDs being knocked up as we speak, like the ones you used to get in Sainsbury's Car Park so you could buy booze. I mean.....allegedly. Edit. BTW I thought they had to submit registration docs at the end of the transfer window, would that not make them ineligible in February, not just next season? Maybe someone who knows the regs better than me can confirm. Edited January 20, 2023 by HKP90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 hours ago, The_Steve said: Moneyball on steroids It’s not moneyball at all as far as I can tell, moneyball was all about finding cheap but effective players based off of algorithms and data analysis. This is just literally throwing money around like confetti whilst still not addressing the key issue in the squad (lack of a good striker) and expecting a new manager to just make it all gel. Its more like Nottingham Forest on steroids. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: It’s not moneyball at all as far as I can tell, moneyball was all about finding cheap but effective players based off of algorithms and data analysis. This is just literally throwing money around like confetti whilst still not addressing the key issue in the squad (lack of a good striker) and expecting a new manager to just make it all gel. Its more like Nottingham Forest on steroids. Yeah Guilbert is the best example and explanation of moneyball We need a RB, we don't have money, scouting would tell you that reece James or TAA are great RBs but that's a waste of time because they're mega money signings Instead your data analysts tells you that this unknown RB in the French league is top 5 across Europe for interceptions and he will cost £2m He is the purest "moneyball" signing I can think of, he stood out because of 1 particular stat The difference in the sports and why the whole moneyball concept is bollocks anyway is that we then no doubt scouted him in a traditional sense afterwards, in football its merely an identification tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 58 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Edit. BTW I thought they had to submit registration docs at the end of the transfer window, would that not make them ineligible in February, not just next season? Maybe someone who knows the regs better than me can confirm. Yes, all teams have to re-submit a new squad list after the transfer window closes. Chelsea are going to have a few 'big' players not make that squad list, which means they won't be able to play in the Premier League until August. There is a different squad list for Europe so they can still play in European matches though. So they might spread their players across 2 different squad lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, ender4 said: Yes, all teams have to re-submit a new squad list after the transfer window closes. Chelsea are going to have a few 'big' players not make that squad list, which means they won't be able to play in the Premier League until August. There is a different squad list for Europe so they can still play in European matches though. So they might spread their players across 2 different squad lists. That’s going to ruffle a few feathers we might not expect ruffled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 But anyone under 21 doesn't count towards squad lists so they might have more space than we think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, ender4 said: But anyone under 21 doesn't count towards squad lists so they might have more space than we think? They only have 5 players 21 or under. one is Chuk, the 2 kids have been playing at full back I think, Badiashile and Broja 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 7-and-a-half year contract for Madueke. Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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