HanoiVillan Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 My understanding of that baseball contract is that the scale of the deferral is unique, even if the act of deferring isn't. I'm no expert though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 On 18/12/2023 at 21:46, mikeyp102 said: Who they want to sell This is their limitation of their policy. O.k Gallagher is no world beater but Poch seems to like him hence starting him in pretty much every prem game and making him captain recently. However due to the insane money spent in last two years he's basically their main option to recoup some of that v FFP given his homegrown status. So you're pretty much going against a manager's decision given how dicey the FFP position is getting (and you can't just ignore it given an established prem team has been deducted 10 points). Would be a bit like us continuing the reckless spending under Slippy for little return and then having to sell Ramsey for 40m +. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I just read that the Boro defeat makes it 31 games lost since the start of last season (22/23) . Which is absolutely mental. We would be marching on VP . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I genuinely don't see what Enzo offers in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 4 hours ago, kurtsimonw said: I genuinely don't see what Enzo offers in any way. For 200+ million Fernandez and Caicedo is a pretty woeful partnership. They offer little in creativity or control Caicedo I said before that he would flop and would be another from the Brighton system that fails elsewhere Edited January 10 by Zatman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted January 10 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10 On 20/12/2023 at 21:56, villa4europe said: Yeah that's what I've never seen before, he's on a 10 year playing contract but the mega money kicks in after he's finished playing Wonder how long it will be before someone tries that in football, salah for example at Liverpool, they give him a job for life contract with money spread over the next 20 years but it means in terms of FFP he's relatively low Is there anything actually stopping this? You'd have thought Chelsea would've tried it already if not, or they will soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I think I read 47% win rate for Poch so far. Really poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 33 minutes ago, Zatman said: I think I read 47% win rate for Poch so far. Really poor Depends what the expectation is for this season. I think around 12-14 teams in the PL usually have a win rate under 50% every season. Chelsea are 3 points behind Brighton in 7th. They finished 12th last season and are very close to the European places this season, so a decent improvement. Of course, compared to Abramovich era they are terrible but in the Boehly era they are on par Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) Was just looking through their manager history; Tuchel was only there 18 months!? And since Conte, the manager with the best win %? Sarri at 62%. (Conte was 65%). Edited January 10 by kurtsimonw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, ender4 said: Depends what the expectation is for this season. I think around 12-14 teams in the PL usually have a win rate under 50% every season. Chelsea are 3 points behind Brighton in 7th. They finished 12th last season and are very close to the European places this season, so a decent improvement. Of course, compared to Abramovich era they are terrible but in the Boehly era they are on par They spent nearly 500 million on transfers on 2023. I think they should be doing slightly better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 8 minutes ago, ender4 said: Depends what the expectation is for this season. I think around 12-14 teams in the PL usually have a win rate under 50% every season. Chelsea are 3 points behind Brighton in 7th. They finished 12th last season and are very close to the European places this season, so a decent improvement. Of course, compared to Abramovich era they are terrible but in the Boehly era they are on par I think the expectation would have been at least top 6. No way would Boehly accept Villa, Newcastle, West Ham, Brighton finishing above them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I actually think that most of the players there are very good and, individually, the majority would thrive if you dropped them into a functional team. I think as a collective Chelsea are kinda broken however - too many players to form a cohesive supportive atmosphere, expectation levels and an overrated manager combined make it a dysfunctional club Its the opposite to what Villa have done where they streamlined the squad, brought in a proven coaching team, managed expectations from the fans, and of course have the best manager in the world who improves rather than stifles players Give Emery any single player from Chelseas squad and no only would he be able to get them functioning in the Villa team but would improve them as players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I think mostly the opposite. A collection of overrated hype jobs that have shown real minimal quality, and not even just from a tactical stand point. They can't do the basics of football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 49 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: I think mostly the opposite. A collection of overrated hype jobs that have shown real minimal quality, and not even just from a tactical stand point. They can't do the basics of football. The basics of football is that it is a team sport. And Boehly applied individual stats to this , without once thinking about blending the youth with experience and most importantly heart. They have none. They dont care about winning because they lose so much. They arent playing for their futures because their futures are secured. A culture of win at all costs has been ripped up and replaced with a modern culture of try your best but its ok if you don't win because its a project and everything will be ok in the future. And its going to destroy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: The basics of football is that it is a team sport. And Boehly applied individual stats to this , without once thinking about blending the youth with experience and most importantly heart. They have none. They dont care about winning because they lose so much. They arent playing for their futures because their futures are secured. A culture of win at all costs has been ripped up and replaced with a modern culture of try your best but its ok if you don't win because its a project and everything will be ok in the future. And its going to destroy them. By basics I mean carrying a ball, a first touch, etc. Watching Mudryk fall over the ball trying to run with it or Gallagher mis-controlling a pass to an opponent is not at all tactical. But I do agree otherwise. Edited January 10 by kurtsimonw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 3 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said: The basics of football is that it is a team sport. And Boehly applied individual stats to this , without once thinking about blending the youth with experience and most importantly heart. They have none. I guess kind of like Villa did in the old bad days when we bought Ross McCormack, Scott Hogan, etc. Or when we bought Ireland, Richards, Lescott, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapleVilla Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 2 hours ago, ender4 said: I guess kind of like Villa did in the old bad days when we bought Ross McCormack, Scott Hogan, etc. Or when we bought Ireland, Richards, Lescott, etc. I was going to say the same thing. The difference is Chelsea have all their players they've bought on crazy long contracts. Some of our buys weren't great (in terms of contracts and length/money), and we were relegated/in the championship when that was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 They’ve just completed the signing of dujuan Richards from Craig butlers phoenix academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HanoiVillan Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I don't actually know if this is true, but Matthew Vaughn gives off massive 'Chelsea fan' vibes to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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