Genie Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I think if you were to ask the question "am I allowed the crash deliberately to gain a restart if I'm not completely happy with my start" the answer would be no. Therefore, he broke the rules. Delighted with the win, GB clearly the fastest but still, for me, if I put my independent hat on they broke the rules and should have been disqualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Buying the tickets online is virtually impossible The system is shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaztonVilla Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Isn't this cycling thing the equivalent of a footballer feeling contact and going to ground in the box? He felt there was a problem with his start and, rather than try desperately to correct it and subsequently have a bad time, he allowed the mishap to continue and fell of his bike. He didn't deliberately cause the "mishap" but he didn't try very hard to correct it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 "We were saying if we have a bad start we need to crash to get a restart. I just crashed, I did it on purpose to get a restart, just to have the fastest ride. I did it. So it was all planned, really." The guy admitted he cheated to get a better result. Ah but it was all 'lost in translation'. ;-) Maybe he genuinely lost control and decided that it was better to let things take their course and not fight to recover control of the bike. I guess that may well constitute a mishap and perhaps their discussions in training had surrounded that possibility and what they should do (i.e. not that he should deliberately fall off but that if something went wrong he shouldn't try to rectify it). Edit: Gazton beat me to it, rather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Yeah maybe I would go along with that but I think unless it was mechanical then it is just cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briggaman Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 What a run from Ennis then. Broke the WR too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 3, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3, 2012 WB I think it was (although I watched it without sound) So fastest time in the world this year. Great run though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Out of curiosity,how many restarts are you allowed ? Cause it sounds like riders can keep falling off their bikes till they get the start they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Good start, fastest ever in heptathlon 100m hurdles. The Russian who beat her previously finished 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briggaman Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 WB I think it was (although I watched it without sound) So fastest time in the world this year. Great run though Yeah, I got a bit carried away there. WB and still a pretty amazing run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 3, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3, 2012 They are saying it's the fastest time ever by a heptathlete, and a legitimate GB record. Can't ask for much more than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 "We were saying if we have a bad start we need to crash to get a restart. I just crashed, I did it on purpose to get a restart, just to have the fastest ride. I did it. So it was all planned, really." The guy admitted he cheated to get a better result. Ah but it was all 'lost in translation'. ;-) Maybe he genuinely lost control and decided that it was better to let things take their course and not fight to recover control of the bike. I guess that may well constitute a mishap and perhaps their discussions in training had surrounded that possibility and what they should do (i.e. not that he should deliberately fall off but that if something went wrong he shouldn't try to rectify it). Edit: Gazton beat me to it, rather. Gary Lineker had them in the studio on BBC2 later and asked him to ** cough ** clarify that he hadn't deliberately cheated He said no the bike wasn't right and caused him to crash the sport were fairly strict with the Chinese women and the GB chicks so I think they wouldn't have hesitated to disqualify them if they thought it was deliberate cheating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 the sport were fairly strict with the Chinese women and the GB chicks so I think they wouldn't have hesitated to disqualify them if they thought it was deliberate cheating Why would they have thought it was deliberate, though? Until Hindes said what he did, I doubt it had crossed anyone's mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 3, 2012 Moderator Share Posted August 3, 2012 and a legitimate GB record. Are you saying a heptathlete just broke the overall (i.e. non-heptathlete) 100m hurdles GB record or just the heptathlete record? That would be slightly insane if it was the case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 and a legitimate GB record. Are you saying a heptathlete just broke the overall (i.e. non-heptathlete) 100m hurdles GB record or just the heptathlete record? That would be slightly insane if it was the case! The former. I think they said it was also the same time as the gold medal winning run (in the actual event) in Bejing (though I may have heard that wrong). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 and a legitimate GB record. Are you saying a heptathlete just broke the overall (i.e. non-heptathlete) 100m hurdles GB record or just the heptathlete record? That would be slightly insane if it was the case! She broke the heptathlete record but she also broke the overall british record for womens hurdles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 3, 2012 Moderator Share Posted August 3, 2012 Bloody hell ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Her time (12.54) was good enough to win gold in Beijing in 2008. Ennis could just be a specialist hurdler and do very well if she wanted. Sadly, like a lot of world records in women's athletics, the world record and top five times were set by Eastern bloc/commie countries in the 1970s & 80s and nobody has got near them since. I think we all know why that is, it's just a shame that the cheating bastards were never caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 She would have won gold with that time in Beijing in the individual race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Ennis is amazing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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