danceoftheshamen Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 We badly need some results to go for us this weekend.. On Saturday I will be looking for a West Brom win against QPR as that would be huge for us as would a Swansea win at home to Blackburn.. Hopefully Arsenal will beat Wigan on the Monday night though you never know on their current form.. Bolton don't play as their game against Spurs has been rearranged.. I genuinely cannot see us getting anything at all from the Man Utd game of course but it is in effect our game in hand voided.. Massive bonus if we got a point...if not just don't get hammered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted April 11, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2012 Jeez... Its really depressing but I sincerely believe we are not going down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Jeez... Its really depressing but I sincerely believe we are not going down! We have only lose a third of our league games this season so we should get points in at least 4 of the last 6 games Last 6 games, which where harder than the 6 we have left. we got 6 points, that will be be enough if we get them I always siad 39 points will be enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 It's like cheering heskeys every touch though isn't it? 39 points, stay up by the skin of our teeth let's go **** mental... FWIW I think everything rests on the Bolton game, if we can draw vs Sunderland and beat them that'll do it, baggies and Norwich in 2 dead rubbers we might even flatter ourselves, if we lose to Bolton though we are done, if we play for a draw at home to Bolton then we deserve to go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I'm gonna be in Rome on holiday when the Bolton game is played. Really don't want a loss in that ruining my holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Jeez... Its really depressing but I sincerely believe we are not going down! We have only lose a third of our league games this season so we should get points in at least 4 of the last 6 games Last 6 games, which where harder than the 6 we have left. we got 6 points, that will be be enough if we get them I always siad 39 points will be enough Well to be precise we've actually lost 11 out of 32 games which is more than a third of our games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Dont check the results mate. You going to be able to get in a Serie A game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 It's like cheering heskeys every touch though isn't it? 39 points, stay up by the skin of our teeth let's go **** mental... FWIW I think everything rests on the Bolton game, if we can draw vs Sunderland and beat them that'll do it, baggies and Norwich in 2 dead rubbers we might even flatter ourselves, if we lose to Bolton though we are done, if we play for a draw at home to Bolton then we deserve to go down Exactly. It feels like staying up is going to be some major achievement! **** pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Dont check the results mate. You going to be able to get in a Serie A game?I won't be able to help myself. No. Might check the fixtures though and see if there are any on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Dont check the results mate. You going to be able to get in a Serie A game?I won't be able to help myself. No. Might check the fixtures though and see if there are any on. I understand try and resist though Yeah try and go, Serie A games are really fun (not very family freindly though so dont take the kids if you have any). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips'ngravy Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 It's grim alright but futile to try and predict the results of the teams around us. You just don't know what is going to happen at this stage of the season. The most intelligent view on form I've heard recently was that of Ralph Honnigstein on Football Weekly when commenting on the fact that Bolton had won 3 in a row he said it was more likely they wouldn't win the next match than they would as that's what teams down the bottom of the table do. They subsequently got battered by Fulham at home. The only thing you can really say with any strength of conviction at the moment is that, barring Wolves, we look the least likely of the bottom six to win a game. That doesn't mean to say we won't pull out a freak result though. The game at United should be the game we go most relaxed into as we aren't expected to get anything out of it. So who knows? But predicting a run of 5/6 games for our relegation rivals is completely pointless. Who would have thought QPR would have beaten Swansea a few weeks ago let alone Liverpool and Arsenal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelboyVilla Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 It's grim alright but futile to try and predict the results of the teams around us. You just don't know what is going to happen at this stage of the season. The most intelligent view on form I've heard recently was that of Ralph Honnigstein on Football Weekly when commenting on the fact that Bolton had won 3 in a row he said it was more likely they wouldn't win the next match than they would as that's what teams down the bottom of the table do. They subsequently got battered by Fulham at home. The only thing you can really say with any strength of conviction at the moment is that, barring Wolves, we look the least likely of the bottom six to win a game. That doesn't mean to say we won't pull out a freak result though. The game at United should be the game we go most relaxed into as we aren't expected to get anything out of it. So who knows? But predicting a run of 5/6 games for our relegation rivals is completely pointless. Who would have thought QPR would have beaten Swansea a few weeks ago let alone Liverpool and Arsenal? The trouble is AM will try to park the bus at OT and we all know that we are not good enough to defend for 90 mins (or 95 mins if Manure need a late goal). Wigan have shown that if you have a go Manure are not as strong as they were 5 years ago, one more win and we will get the draw to be safe. I just don't think AM knows how to win a game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I think the return of N'Zogbia will just give us a little bit more of a threat in attack. This, and the emergence of another goal-threat in Weimann might just give us some chance of scoring more than once in a match. I also think the return of Cuellar will be vital. I don't know if there are stats to back this up but it seems like we are far less vulnerable at set pieces with a Cuellar and Collins pairing at centre-half. We've had five matches with that pairing, and apart from Arsenal away we only conceded 2 goals in 4 matches, one of which was against Man City. It won't be pretty, but I think the points will come. Of our remaining fixtures I reckon only the Man Utd one is a nailed on loss. Sure, our form is awful, but we have been in winning positions in most of our recent matches and we just need a bit of luck and intestinal fortitude to get us across the line in one or two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 If we beat Bolton we will be okay; if we lose to them then it could be down to the wire. We have to play Man United away and Sunderland at home before we can even contemplate any pluses/minuses of the result against Bolton. No we don't because if we beat them in our game in hand we would be 9 points clear. I can't see Bolton or Blackburn pick up 9 points by the end of the season; 10 if you count goal difference. That's if we didn't get a single point from the remaining 5 games. Bolton would have 5 games to pick 10 points; can't see it and I can't see Blackburn taking 10 from 15. So yes the Bolton game is key even if we lose all the rest. But we will beat both Man U and Sunderland and won't have to worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Wigan and QPR with huge wins tonight...it's well and truly on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 The appointment of McLeish is coming back to haunt us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briggaman Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Just had a good look at the fixtures & i can see Wigan getting at least 7 more points with Arsenal (a) L Fulham (a) L Newcastle (h) D Blackburn (a) W Wolves (h) W Although on current form i wouldn't put it past them doing Fulham or Newcastle either. That would leave them with 38 points QPR i can see getting at least 7 more with WBA (a) D Spurs (h) W Chelsea (a) L Stoke (H) W Man City (a) L Leaving them also with 38 points Bolton have easier fixtures & i see around 9 points for them Swansea (h) W Villa (a) D Sunderland (a) L Spurs (h) D WBA (h) W Stoke (a) D Leaving them on 38 points too! Blackburn i see with maybe 4 points Swansea (a) D Norwich (h) W Spurs (a) L Wigan (H) L Chelsea (a) L puts them on 33 points & in trouble Wolves surely are down So for me we need 4 points but thats cutting it very fine indeed possibly just 3 with our goal difference but that is way too risky. You've been very generous to QPR and Bolton there. I can see QPR struggling to get five points, nevermind seven. I can see Bolton getting six points maximum from that lot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 i honestly thought our luck was in this week when liverpool beat blackburn...however, wigan beating man utd has been a massive curve ball. they'll be all out to smash us on sunday now...so it's up to the boys to pull something out of the bag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Why the hell don't Wigan play like that for the other 30 matches of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Where's that coward the General Krutwat now times are getting tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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