Nabby Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Latest polls are close with No just edging it apart from one poll by Telegraph with it 54 Yes 46 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Sunday Telegraph front page is quite something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Sunday Telegraph front page is quite something. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishVillan Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 That is sure to turn a few doubters into Yes-votes. Better order some Diebold voting machines right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 That is sure to turn a few doubters into Yes-votes. Not forgetting these imbeciles marching around the centre of Edinburgh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 14, 2014 Moderator Share Posted September 14, 2014 Alex Salmond has apparently said he likes "certain aspects" of Vladimir Putins leadership and he thinks Rupert Murdoch is a remarkable man. Murdoch in turn has described Salmond as the best politician in Britain today. The Scottish Scum is apparently going to endorse a Yes vote.Be careful what you wish for Scotland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 That is sure to turn a few doubters into Yes-votes. Not forgetting these imbeciles marching around the centre of Edinburgh... Isn't the bloke on the right Norris from Corrie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 That front page is appalling, and doubtless they would try to pass it off as a 'quote' if criticised for it, despite it not being in quotation marks. And they wonder why nobody believes in self-regulation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Piers Morgan ✔ @piersmorgan Follow Dear People of Scotland, if you vote NO, I promise to go straight back to America. #indyref Well I think that just about wraps the whole thing up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Seems Murdoch has said he will move his entire news corp operation to Scotland in the event of a Yes vote. We're going to need that fence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 16, 2014 Moderator Share Posted September 16, 2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Seems Murdoch has said he will move his entire news corp operation to Scotland in the event of a Yes vote. We're going to need that fence. Surely help for the No vote then [emoji2] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 16, 2014 Moderator Share Posted September 16, 2014 Seems Murdoch has said he will move his entire news corp operation to Scotland in the event of a Yes vote. We're going to need that fence. Am I too late to move and register to vote? I want to help make sure this happens. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 good riddance to that filth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ads Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 £450 million worth of cuts to the NHS planned over the next two years by the SNP in the event of a Yes vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What are the nature of the cuts, though? They could certainly streamline the service with a smaller population and less bureaucracy as a result of no longer being part of that well loved behemoth. If you say 'cuts to the NHS' then everyone loses their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ads Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Half a billion is a pretty big number though. You'd think there would have to be more to it than just management types. Its ok though, getting rid of Trident (1.5% of total benefit budget) and somehow losing 6500 jobs (rising to 8200) will balance that all out. Urhm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 £450 million worth of cuts to the NHS planned over the next two years by the SNP in the event of a Yes vote. That isn't quite true, is it, if it's to do with the following: Leaked report reveals £450m in NHS cutbacks will be needed over next two yearsHEALTH bosses will be forced to make cutbacks worth up to £450 million over the next two years, according to a report compiled by NHS finance directors. The document shows NHS managers will have to find savings of between £400m and £450m by April 2017 and warns health boards do not have the powers to make the changes they believe are required to balance the books. It was compiled by health board finance directors and John Matheson, director of finance for health and social care with the Scottish Government, and is due to be presented at meetings involving top NHS executives. The report has been leaked days before the referendum as some health service staff are increasingly frustrated by suggestions from Yes campaigners that Scotland needs independence to protect NHS funding. In the document, the finance directors raise concerns that issues such as smaller annual budget increases, the growing elderly population and the rising bill for drugs are already putting resources under massive pressure. The paper lists these along with other financial obligations as the reasons for the shortfall, which it says will force managers to find savings equating to about 3.5 per cent of the total budget. It says there is a "projected change in the financial position which will require boards to achieve cash-releasing savings ... at a level significantly in excess of that previously required and without the mandate and authority to implement the scale of change and redesign required." It also implies a pressing need to centralise services, like A&E departments or some forms of specialist treatment. The report says there is agreement across managers and clinicians that "radical and urgent decisions need to be made regarding the shape and configuration of services. The status quo and preservation of existing models of care are no longer an option given the pressing challenges we face." This is not only because patient numbers are growing at a time of tighter public spending, but also because of a shortage of doctors. The report demands a "frank and realistic appraisal of future workforce requirements". The Herald's NHS Time for Action campaign is similarly calling for a review of capacity in both health and social care services to ensure staff and resources are in the right place at the right time to cope with the rising number of frail elderly people. In the leaked report, the Scottish Government is tacitly accused of making policy decisions that require health boards to keep spending more on hospital services, when the unanimous vision for the future of NHS Scotland is to look after patients better at home. The document says that "continued commitments are being made which are directing increasing levels of resource into hospital- based provision counter to the ambition for enhancing preventative/ self-care and local community-based provision." These commitments include the legally binding waiting-time guarantee, the creation of four trauma centres and maintaining current numbers of hospital beds and nurses. It calls for the NHS to "stop investing time and resource" on marginal initiatives and focus on the actions that will make a difference. A Scottish Government spokeswoman added: "Like all healthcare systems around the world, Scotland's NHS needs to continue evolving. This is why we have already legislated to integrate health and social care, delivering the new Glasgow Southern and are planned further investment in Aberdeen to transform cancer and maternity services." "With a record number of staff working in the NHS and our world-leading patient safety programme, Scotland's NHS is delivering real changes for patients." Now, the report may call in to question the Yes campaign's claims about a yes vote being one for 'protecting the NHS' (though the protection they are claiming is from privatization, isn't it?) but it isn't what you've posted (unless your post is something the SNP have said elsewhere). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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