CI Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 5/2 is quite short What odds are we ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Slightly more likely apparently. Around 2/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) He's an odious little word removed that is being exposed as a manager with nothing but old hat ideas and poor in the transfer market. I'm so glad Fletcher is injured and I hope it is a bad one as I see his goals as essentially keeping Sunderland up. If his injury is bad they could be a very good outside bet to go down. Outside bet? They're as short as 5/2 in some places. That's hardly a good outside bet. I guess you're right but 5/2 is still a decent bet to take on. I've just checked and have seen 7/2 available. Edited March 23, 2013 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 but I will never forgive him for walking out 5 days before the start of the season. And yet we paid him millions of pounds for doing this. Seems strange to me. You always mention this but you fail to mention that it was settled out of court, meaning O'Neill didn't want to pursue things any further either. If he is such a shit manager and person I am amazed that people are still so pissed off he left us. Very little objectivity regarding him It's about how he left. The timing of it caused a lot of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Vindictive Date: 15th century 1 a : disposed to seek : vengeful b : intended for or involving revenge 2 : intended to cause anguish or hurt : spiteful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 O'Neill wont be relegated, the word removed is a lucky clearing in the woods so they wont go down.I imagine if it looks like his ego will be dented he'll just jump ship and vanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Sunderland run in - Utd h Chelsea a Newcastle a Everton h Villa a Stoke h Southampton h Spurs a Can see them getting About 7 more points so 38 total which will be touch and go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted March 23, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 23, 2013 but I will never forgive him for walking out 5 days before the start of the season. And yet we paid him millions of pounds for doing this. Seems strange to me. How do you know this? As far as i'm aware it was settled outside of court and that's the end of it. Either party could have backed down. What makes you think we paid him millions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 O'Neill wont be relegated, the word removed is a lucky clearing in the woods so they wont go down. I imagine if it looks like his ego will be dented he'll just jump ship and vanish. He got all the luck in the Norwich game and yet it finished a draw.. they were playing against 10 men for over 60 minutes and they never really troubled the keeper at all, maybe one or two shots at the most within that time. Worrying for Sunderland fans - most if not all want him out anyway. They look awful. Think the problem is football has moved on - MON hasn't and it's showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted March 23, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Apparently Fletcher is out for 6 weeks too. Eeek.... Might do them a favour in all seriousness. Fletcher and Graham obviously doesnt work, with Fletcher out they will be forced to play 4-5-1 which will help them massively IMO. They look terrible playing 2 up top. Edited March 23, 2013 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 True plus when Graham is the main man he tends to do well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Unless they stick Connor Wickham in and persist with 2 up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted March 23, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 23, 2013 I don't think they will. I don't think MON has much faith in Wickham. I remember when MON was the villa manager and I think Carew was injured, he was forced to play 4-5-1 and we looked brilliant with Gabby up top on his own. I think he then signed Heskey and changed to 4-4-2 and it all went down hill from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Sunderland ate that team that looks comfortable and then just drops like a stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Sunderland ate that team that looks comfortable and then just drops like a stone. Everything is crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMFy Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Sunderland ate that team with some fava beans and a nice chianti? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 You always mention this but you fail to mention that it was settled out of court, meaning O'Neill didn't want to pursue things any further either. MON took the case to court because he wanted money and he ended up getting money. Seems strange that a club having to cut costs would be happy to pay a manager for walking out 5 days before the season started. but I will never forgive him for walking out 5 days before the start of the season. And yet we paid him millions of pounds for doing this. Seems strange to me. How do you know this? As far as i'm aware it was settled outside of court and that's the end of it. Either party could have backed down. What makes you think we paid him millions? We paid £16 million in compensation to past managers You don't think MoN got a chunk of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted March 25, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 25, 2013 I have no idea to be honest. I have no idea how much it would have cost to sack Houllier and all of his staff, and McLeish and his staff. Could well be that we gave MON some, but I don't know for sure, no one does really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) It is the nature of football. When was the last time you heard of a manager leave his job at the end of his contract? Its like complaining that you needed to get a new exhaust and brake pads for your car in the same year. Its a billionaires plaything. Edited March 25, 2013 by Tamuff_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevangrealish Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Read some article today and seen they had QPR and Reading as goners. With Sunderland probably being the third one. They've won 0 in the last 7 btw. http://www.footballstories.co.uk/2013/03/premier-league-relegation-runners-and.html MON has no relegation experience aswell... I can see them going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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