StefanAVFC Posted July 29 VT Supporter Share Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: So in terms of knocking the back out of him the lad was legal but it’s illegal to have explicit photos of someone who’s only 17? Yeah I never understood how they prosecute this. You can legally be sexually active at 16, in a consensual relationship with another 16 year old but send a dick pic and you’re both possessing/distributing child porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Just now, StefanAVFC said: Yeah I never understood how they prosecute this. You can legally be sexually active at 16, in a consensual relationship with another 16 year old but send a dick pic and you’re both possessing/distributing child porn. I never knew that. Strange one yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 6 minutes ago, bickster said: UK age of consent laws are very unaligned. Wait until you hear about cigarettes Yeah think I’ve heard about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 29 VT Supporter Share Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Yeah think I’ve heard about it You do WHAT with it, Walt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 13 hours ago, bickster said: Who are we to judge what two consenting adults get up to in their private lives. It was never about approval or defending. I think I can judge a 62 year old man paying for sex with a 17 year old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 6 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: I think I can judge a 62 year old man paying for sex with a 17 year old. In terms of the sex it’s perfectly legal . Obviously you’re not meant to be paying anyone for sex as that’s prostitution, but although morally wrong the actual sex is legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I believe the police have said these charges are not in relation to the previous reporting however I can’t find mention of this. So internet chatter and not fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 30 Moderator Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: I think I can judge a 62 year old man paying for sex with a 17 year old. That has nothing to do with what you originally said and from what we know, no basis in truth either. Your original statement and this one are wildly different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: I think I can judge a 62 year old man paying for sex with a 17 year old. You’ve changed it from 2 adults. Let’s not go back to telling 2 consenting adults what they can and can’t do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 30 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30 11 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Well the question is if that was your 17 year old son would you be happy about it? Not really. The question is whether it's illegal or not. Your emotions as a parent are irrelevant 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 30 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30 10 hours ago, tomav84 said: presumably, if you received unsolicited illegal content (whatever it may be), and took it straight to the police, you'd be ok. they'll probably still take your devices etc for investigation which would be a massive inconvenience but if one was genuinely innocent then they'd be able to prove it clearly in the case of a certain newsreader he either a) solicited said image or b) didn't do the above Yeah I imagine if he had received the images and immediately deleted them or told the other person to stop then there wouldn't be an issue. I'd guess there's evidence that that wasn't the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Not really. The question is whether it's illegal or not. Your emotions as a parent are irrelevant My emotions are actually relevant if i was a parent and it was my kids involved. I will wait for full facts on the case before making a judgement. Butbhe has been charged so clearly they have found something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 30 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30 10 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: My emotions are actually relevant if i was a parent and it was my kids involved. No, they're completely irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 26 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: No, they're completely irrelevant. Any parents emotions are relevant in my opinion in cases like this. I completely disagree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Any parents emotions are relevant in my opinion in cases like this. I completely disagree with you This is a legal thing, not whether you approve of your adult child having a relationship with someone much older. Emotions are irrelevant, it’s about what is or is not legal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 minute ago, Genie said: This is a legal thing, not whether you approve of your adult child having a relationship with someone much older. Emotions are irrelevant, it’s about what is or is not legal. Its all good saying that but i pray none of your children are in this position. Easy to say from a outside view. If he hadnt commited a crime why has he been arrested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Its all good saying that but i pray none of your children are in this position. Easy to say from an outside view. If he hadnt commited a crime why has he been arrested? I think you’re missing the point being made completely. If the younger persons parents are deeply upset by it then it doesn’t make it any more illegal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Genie said: I think you’re missing the point being made completely. If the younger persons parents are deeply upset by it then it doesn’t make it any more illegal. Yeah i think we are talking about two different things to be honest But he has still be arrested so he has done something wrong otherwise he would have been let off Edited July 30 by Demitri_C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 6 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Yeah i think we are talking about two different things to be honest But he has still be arrested so he has done something wrong otherwise he would have been let off Obviously he has done something wrong which is unclear yet but he’s done nothing wrong in terms of having sex with this person providing he consented . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 30 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30 19 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Any parents emotions are relevant in my opinion in cases like this. I completely disagree with you If you're talking about whether it's legal or not then they're completely irrelevant. A parent would probably be very unhappy if the situation was exactly the same but their son was 22. But that would be legal. Whether they're upset about it or not is irrelevant. And vice versa, if the parents were for some reason completely happy with the situation of him being 17, it doesn't make it any less illegal The law doesn't deal with emotion 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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