7shadesofsmoke Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Well, since Rooney has the entire English media on his cock, his position is not debatable, however former Golden Boy Michael Owen has been in poor form for England for a while and hasn't made much of an impact amongst 'El Galacticos'. His usually guaranteed spot has become increasingly under threat... ...Step forward the young pretenders... Smith started the season well for Man U. but has since been restricted to the bench since Van Nistelrooy and Rooney returned to fitness. Defoe has shown definate potential and performed well for England, but Spurs have failed to create many chances for him. Vassell... we know the deal all too well- Electric pace, 'potential', and always seems to play much better in white than in Claret and Blue. Beattie is injured (and not good enough IMO), hence no option for the wide boy. And just as a note of interest, who would like to see Beckham dropped for S. Wright-Phillips?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Well, since Rooney has the entire English media on his cock, his position is not debatable i will however dispute it, a controversial defoe and smith for me with vass and rooney to come on, no appearance for owen at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Im saying Owen. He is a big game player, and his goals record at international level is phenomenal (if you find a goals to minutes on the pitch ratio, its totally top drawer) He has got a lot to prove at the moment, and this game is set up for him. As for the Midfield thing, Sven isnt going to drop Beckham, so why not move him into the middle alongside Lampard? Lilly Savage isnt playing there, so we dont really need a player like Butt to combat that. Beckham plays very well for Real Madrid in the middle, and of course, it opens the door to Wright Phillips to grab a regular spot in the England starting XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7shadesofsmoke Posted October 6, 2004 Author Share Posted October 6, 2004 Well, since Rooney has the entire English media on his cock, his position is not debatable i will however dispute it, a controversial defoe and smith for me with vass and rooney to come on, no appearance for owen at all Over-ruled. Paddy, this is my poll, one more outburst like that and i will ban you from VillaTalk. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanPabloAngel Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Owen. Proven international goalscorer. He will be out to prove the critics wrong & as euro 2004 proved, his partnership with Rooney works really well. (He set up 2 or 3 goals for him I think) If Beattie isn`t good enough, then Smith & Vassell definitely aren`t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7shadesofsmoke Posted October 6, 2004 Author Share Posted October 6, 2004 As for the Midfield thing, Sven isnt going to drop Beckham, so why not move him into the middle alongside Lampard? Lilly Savage isnt playing there, so we dont really need a player like Butt to combat that. Beckham plays very well for Real Madrid in the middle, and of course, it opens the door to Wright Phillips to grab a regular spot in the England starting XI. Good shout Rev, i like the sound of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Over-ruled. Paddy, this is my poll, one more outburst like that and i will ban you from VillaTalk. haven't interefered with your poll, i haven't voted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 6, 2004 Moderator Share Posted October 6, 2004 Be interesting to know what his goals to game ratio is since "that" injury though, Owen has been underperforming for a good two or three season imho. He doesn't deserve to be even in the squad let alone play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 i voted vassell just to give me some interest while watching england - coz if theres no villa involved - i dont care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bully Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Owen. His record speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Owen. His record speaks for itself. so does gary lineker's, doesn't mean he should be playing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_Wren Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 hed still probably finish anything inside the penalty box even now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faisal Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Defoe if based on form and effectiveness Even if he doesn't start the other guy who does still could do the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernvilla Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 anyone going on saturday?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 yes northern - there's a thread on it - looks like just me and the rev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernvilla Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 ive only just seen that thread, im going of course, i following england to most home and away games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I refuse to vote on a partner for Shrek because personally id take Beattie and Defoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Dale TBF having seen Beattie play for England, he really hasn't done a lot when he's pulled on the white shirt. Plus he's injured and out for a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RantinRob Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Where's the option for "I don't **** care"? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahamaad Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Owen shouldn't even be in the squad. Over-rated, over-paid, boring little shit. Defoe on the other hand, is a class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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