Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Why protest against McLeish ? Lerner appointed him The players have let him down Okay, well organise your own "Lerner and the players out" day and the rest of us will have our McLeish Out day tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Tomorrow* (too early in the morning) From what i've seen from Spurs goals have been a problem but they found they the goalscoring touch last game so it could get ugly should we not defend properly (like most of the season so far) Its will be very ugly then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Tarnish the image of the club.....after what a few players did the other night, the way other teams think we are easy points and the media describing our football......you're having a laugh. Also, who cares what other people think of us, I'd rather be successful and hated than respected and rubbish. While we may not get relegated this season, if this continues then we might next season. Have we ever hounded a manager out before? How do you think the media is going to protray the sacking of McLeish after the demonstration on Sunday? McLeish is going to get the sympathy vote rather than people looking at the real reasons why he was sacked. Its just giving McLeish the excuse he needs and it might very well influence Lerner to keep McLeish for another season by not pandering to the wishes of the fans. It also might influence other managers in deciding not to come to our club. So many reasons why we shouldn't protest and to have faith in our chairman to do the right thing at the end of the season. This protest could badly backfire on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 McLeish isn't being hounded out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Luckily, I don't think this protest will take off anyway We've seen before that some of the radical views aired on VT are not representative of the 30 odd thousand fans who attend the games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 He will be on Sunday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 So many reasons why we shouldn't protest and to have faith in our chairman to do the right thing at the end of the season.I don't have any faith in Lerner these days. Yes, the protests are a little unsavoury but not half as unsavoury as the prospect of another season written off under McLeish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Tarnish the image of the club.....after what a few players did the other night, the way other teams think we are easy points and the media describing our football......you're having a laugh. Also, who cares what other people think of us, I'd rather be successful and hated than respected and rubbish. While we may not get relegated this season, if this continues then we might next season. Have we ever hounded a manager out before? How do you think the media is going to protray the sacking of McLeish after the demonstration on Sunday? McLeish is going to get the sympathy vote rather than people looking at the real reasons why he was sacked. Its just giving McLeish the excuse he needs and it might very well influence Lerner to keep McLeish for another season by not pandering to the wishes of the fans. It also might influence other managers in deciding not to come to our club. So many reasons why we shouldn't protest and to have faith in our chairman to do the right thing at the end of the season. This protest could badly backfire on us. I disagree entirely - sitting back and hoping for something to happen is far worse. If you don't display the fact that you want McLeish out publicly, then it'll be assumed that you don't have a problem with it. It's like people who don't vote and then complain about the state of a country - totally hypocritical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I can see both sides to this protest and as much as I want McLeish gone I just can't justify the level of abuse he will surely receive tomorrow. Mostly because at some point it WILL become personal. The thing that bothers me is that Mr Lerner is not getting any abuse over everything that has happened during our decline over the last 2 or so years. Everything that's wrong with the club is all McLeishs fault it seems. I want McLeish gone as much as most people and will celebrate like a mental bastard when he is gone but these flyers, 'McLeish Out Day' and what not is just too far imo. This could really affect any future managers decision to come here. And remember, what next? We still have Lerner and Faulkener (who in my opinion is ALMOST as worse a poison coursing through the club than Eck is) running the show and I just don't trust them at all to make a decent decision anymore and it staggers me that they have escaped any abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Luckily, I don't think this protest will take off anyway We've seen before that some of the radical views aired on VT are not representative of the 30 odd thousand fans who attend the gamesWhat radical views? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Denis - you're seemingly adamant that McLeish is gone at the end of the season, so you might as well get all the money you have on him not being here next season. It's 4/7 with SkyBet. Free money! Thanks for that. Opened an account and used my free £10 starter as well - definately FREE MONEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 There's a theory that says that's why Lerner appointed McLeish To deflect all flak onto him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 So many reasons why we shouldn't protest and to have faith in our chairman to do the right thing at the end of the season.I don't have any faith in Lerner these days. Yes, the protests are a little unsavoury but not half as unsavoury as the prospect of another season written off under McLeish. Everything Lerner has done over the past two seasons would support your point concerning a lack of faith in him but only someone on the top tier of stupidity would turn a blind eye to what has been happening to our club on and off the pitch this season. I firmly believe that the decision has already been taken for McLeish to go at the end of the season and that plus the other reasons i have stated are reasons enough for me to believe that any protest now is futile and harmful to the image of the club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Tarnish the image of the club.....after what a few players did the other night, the way other teams think we are easy points and the media describing our football......you're having a laugh. Also, who cares what other people think of us, I'd rather be successful and hated than respected and rubbish. While we may not get relegated this season, if this continues then we might next season. Have we ever hounded a manager out before? How do you think the media is going to protray the sacking of McLeish after the demonstration on Sunday? McLeish is going to get the sympathy vote rather than people looking at the real reasons why he was sacked. Its just giving McLeish the excuse he needs and it might very well influence Lerner to keep McLeish for another season by not pandering to the wishes of the fans. It also might influence other managers in deciding not to come to our club. So many reasons why we shouldn't protest and to have faith in our chairman to do the right thing at the end of the season. This protest could badly backfire on us. I disagree entirely - sitting back and hoping for something to happen is far worse. If you don't display the fact that you want McLeish out publicly, then it'll be assumed that you don't have a problem with it. It's like people who don't vote and then complain about the state of a country - totally hypocritical. All fair points but Lerner will already know how the fans feel about McLeish. It goes right back to when he was first appointed and it has gone downhill from there with the team's results. Performances and results just haven't been acceptable and thats what any chairman will judge his manager on, not the fact that the fans have decided to protest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 All fair points but Lerner will already know how the fans feel about McLeish. Didn't stop him from hiring him though.. and this was without the protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Denis - you're seemingly adamant that McLeish is gone at the end of the season, so you might as well get all the money you have on him not being here next season. It's 4/7 with SkyBet. Free money! Thanks for that. Opened an account and used my free £10 starter as well - definately FREE MONEY Don't mention it Only £10 though! Something tells me you aren't so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Why protest against McLeish ? Lerner appointed him The players have let him down Nice to meet you, you must be the new village idiot on here! Why protest against McLeish? Pretty obvious why. He is not capable of performing his duties to a satisfactory level, even though his leaders believed so one year ago. The manager galvanizes the players, but he has not done so. Another manager will, the right one would have easily handled a better point tally and a better position in the table. McLeish out, and perhaps forever from this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Tarnish the image of the club.....after what a few players did the other night, the way other teams think we are easy points and the media describing our football......you're having a laugh. Also, who cares what other people think of us, I'd rather be successful and hated than respected and rubbish. While we may not get relegated this season, if this continues then we might next season. Have we ever hounded a manager out before? How do you think the media is going to protray the sacking of McLeish after the demonstration on Sunday? McLeish is going to get the sympathy vote rather than people looking at the real reasons why he was sacked. Its just giving McLeish the excuse he needs and it might very well influence Lerner to keep McLeish for another season by not pandering to the wishes of the fans. It also might influence other managers in deciding not to come to our club. So many reasons why we shouldn't protest and to have faith in our chairman to do the right thing at the end of the season. This protest could badly backfire on us. I disagree entirely - sitting back and hoping for something to happen is far worse. If you don't display the fact that you want McLeish out publicly, then it'll be assumed that you don't have a problem with it. It's like people who don't vote and then complain about the state of a country - totally hypocritical. All fair points but Lerner will already know how the fans feel about McLeish. It goes right back to when he was first appointed and it has gone downhill from there with the team's results. Performances and results just haven't been acceptable and thats what any chairman will judge his manager on, not the fact that the fans have decided to protest! so why has it taken so long to get rid of McLeish, why did he appoint him when he knew fans feelings, why didn't McLeish go earlier in the season or ten games ago or after the Bolton match??? Until he's gone I will still have my doubts that Lerner will let him go because of the reasons above......everything points to him going but everything pointed to him not being hired but Lerner hired him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 All fair points but Lerner will already know how the fans feel about McLeish. Didn't stop him from hiring him though.. and this was without the protest. No-one knew who the chairman was going to choose as our new manager, so your point is irrelevant and there was a protest i believe after news broke of McLeish's appointment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 The players didn't play for MON at the end The players didn't play for GED The players aren't playing for McLeish Anyone seeing the pattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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