juanpabloangel18 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Sack Eck now, stick in Kmac (or whoever) and get in Martinez at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Yep that's the way to do it. Appoint another manager that is good at one thing, getting teams relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cule4life Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Hopefully the Holte End will vent their fury towards the useless one on saturday. A call for the Holte to boo us into the Championship :shock: <----- Nice For your information "The Championship" is inevitable anyway especially under the current regime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cule4life Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Yep that's the way to do it. Appoint another manager that is good at one thing, getting teams relegated. 100% what Lerner did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Yes, but why sack a shit manager for another shit one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Martinez hasn't been relegated as a manager though. And he also isn't shit. The way he keeps Wigan going is impressive. Any decent player gets cherry picked by an other Premier League side. The fact he kept them up last season was a huge achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 For the shitty players and zero funds Martinez has had at Wigan, I am amazed how good football they play and how they continue to stay up. McLeish is just shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Yep that's the way to do it. Appoint another manager that is good at one thing, getting teams relegated. Who has Martinez relegated? On a shoestring, he has single handedly kept Wigan in the premier league and played fairly decent football to boot. Did you know see Wigan, yes Wigan, play keep ball against Liverpool last week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 No Martinez is a shit manager. Wigan play like shit and Swansea under him played like shit, unlike now under a decent manager where they play well. It is bollocks he has his teams play beautiful football , its just a myth. Go actually WATCH Wigan play. They are terrible and play terrible ugly tactics. No he would be a step sideways or backwards from McLeish. So his team got lucky against Liverpool, McLeish's team got lucky against Chelsea. It happens from time to time but both of them are consistently poor managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 No Martinez is a shit manager. Wigan play like shit and Swansea under him played like shit, unlike now under a decent manager where they play well. It is bollocks he has his teams play beautiful football , its just a myth. Go actually WATCH Wigan play. They are terrible and play terrible ugly tactics. No he would be a step sideways or backwards from McLeish. So his team got lucky against Liverpool, McLeish's team got lucky against Chelsea. It happens from time to time but both of them are consistently poor managers. I doubt that you've ever watched Wigan play. They play very good passing football, and are near the top of the possession stats. They also create far more chances per game than the teams around them, and for a team who's main striker is Franco Di Danto, that is in impressive. Also, lucky? Did you even see Wigan quite literally play Liverpool off the park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Don't want Martinez anywhere near B6 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Don't want Martinez anywhere near B6 thanks You will forgive me if I dont value the opinion of someone who two weeks ago didnt want McLeish, but did last week and now doesnt again. I get the feeling your footballing opinion varies dependent upon which side of bed you got out of! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 No Martinez is a shit manager. Wigan play like shit and Swansea under him played like shit, unlike now under a decent manager where they play well. It is bollocks he has his teams play beautiful football , its just a myth. Go actually WATCH Wigan play. They are terrible and play terrible ugly tactics. No he would be a step sideways or backwards from McLeish. So his team got lucky against Liverpool, McLeish's team got lucky against Chelsea. It happens from time to time but both of them are consistently poor managers. I doubt that you've ever watched Wigan play. They play very good passing football, and are near the top of the possession stats. They also create far more chances per game than the teams around them, and for a team who's main striker is Franco Di Danto, that is in impressive. Also, lucky? Did you even see Wigan quite literally play Liverpool off the park? Saved me the problem of typing, this! For the club to move forward, their needs to be a shift change in the way the club plays, coaches and nurtures its players. Martinez, Rogers, Zola, Adkins and Matthews all offer that potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Suppose you were banging on about Owen Coyle last summer too Ridiculous suggestions for the next manager This is Aston Villa FC, not a Tinpot outfit like Swansea or Wigan We need a Van Gaal or a Rijkaard or Koeman If we're going to change runners and riders lets do it properly next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 No Martinez is a shit manager. Wigan play like shit and Swansea under him played like shit, unlike now under a decent manager where they play well. It is bollocks he has his teams play beautiful football , its just a myth. Go actually WATCH Wigan play. They are terrible and play terrible ugly tactics. No he would be a step sideways or backwards from McLeish. So his team got lucky against Liverpool, McLeish's team got lucky against Chelsea. It happens from time to time but both of them are consistently poor managers. I doubt that you've ever watched Wigan play. They play very good passing football, and are near the top of the possession stats. They also create far more chances per game than the teams around them, and for a team who's main striker is Franco Di Danto, that is in impressive. Also, lucky? Did you even see Wigan quite literally play Liverpool off the park? I doubt you have watched Wigan play with any regularity, dont be fooled by your match of the day highlights. They play shit. Wigan didnt play anywhere near as well as Villa did when we played Chelsea off the park (ie: had a good lucky game like Wigan). So if thats your only example clearly McLeish is a better manager as Chelsea is the better team. Wolves played ManU "off the park" last year, should we get big Mick in as well? Regardless of whether you think McLeish or Martinez is the better bottom feeder manager we should not be satisfied with our club scouring clubs who bobble long in the relegation zone. If you want some good football and dont care about losing then lets get AVB in, it would be exciting t least. With Martinez we would lose and play dross football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 For the club to move forward, their needs to be a shift change in the way the club plays, coaches and nurtures its players. . This bit at least is right. Even if you have a wrong opinion on Martinez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxahunter Posted March 27, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2012 Suppose you were banging on about Owen Coyle last summer too Ridiculous suggestions for the next manager This is Aston Villa FC, not a Tinpot outfit like Swansea or Wigan We need a Van Gaal or a Rijkaard or Koeman If we're going to change runners and riders lets do it properly next time What??? Rijkaard was shit at Barcalona and Koeman was even worse at Valencia. Neither should be let near our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 With the massive succes of our "Premiership experience-policy" towards managers i can't help wonder why people are hell bent on recruting yet another one from inside the isles? Martinez, Hughes, Ericksson!? Not only are they on massive wages, they are in my opinion distinctly average at best. Granted so are we atm but that's not our aim is it? Im sure it's posted before but here's the list of the 30 highest paid managers in the world: http://www.futebolfinance.com/os-30-maiores-salarios-de-treinadores-de-futebol-2012 The premier league is heavily represented and our beloved McLeish is #20 in the world!! If we are looking to cut cost a Premier League manager is not the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Suppose you were banging on about Owen Coyle last summer too Ridiculous suggestions for the next manager This is Aston Villa FC, not a Tinpot outfit like Swansea or Wigan We need a Van Gaal or a Rijkaard or Koeman If we're going to change runners and riders lets do it properly next timeThe difference between Coyle and Martinez is that Martinez isn't a one-season wondrer. The job he's done at Wigan is impressive given the resources and he's not negative nor do his teams play shit football, unlike some. Stop with the whole "We are Aston Villa FC" rubbish. You sound like a Liverpool fan. It doesn't necessarily have to be a big name manager, just the right manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I do not believe for a minute McLeish is on that salary He was on 500k a year at small Heath, I doubt he's on more than £1m at villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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