Zatman Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 21 minutes ago, 479Villan said: "Who can we get that's better?" is the yoke that will drag Everton down. They cannot get someone better than Dyche...and Dyche may not be good enough. Of course they can get somebody better. That's the most Steve Bruce answer i ever heard Is hundreds of managers in Europe who would want the job and that would do half decent job with Everton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 14 minutes ago, Avfc96 said: I disagree. Dyche's football is terrible and can't wait to see the likes of him no longer pop up at clubs fighting relegation. However, it's not like there's a plethora of talent for the next manager to work with for them to become a 'much better' team. Take their strikers. Calvert-Lewin has scored 55 goals in 217 PL games. Their back-up in Beto has 3 goals in 30 PL games. And then their 3rd choice in Broja, who won't play until November has got 8 goals in 76 PL games. And there's numerous other problems within that squad. The only real talent they have is Branthwaite and if Tim can keep up his good start he would be included in that conversation as well. Just to clarify Dyche must have sanctioned the 25 million Beto transfer and bizarrely the Broja deal. Guy is an idiot No sympathy for Everton at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: Just to clarify Dyche must have sanctioned the 25 million Beto transfer and bizarrely the Broja deal. Guy is an idiot No sympathy for Everton at all Dyche works best when it's backs against the wall, up and at em mentality which is why after their two points deductions last season they went on winning runs which kept them up. But I agree, I do think Dyche is an idiot when it comes to having an eye for a player. However, I wouldn't put it all on Dyche, Everton have p*ssed money up the wall ever since they got taken over by Moshiri nearly a decade ago despite having numerous sporting directors and managers. Sigurdsson £40 Million Klassen- £30 Million Iwobi- £30 Million Tosun- £25 Million Mina- £30 Million Signed Rodriquez and Rooney on free transfers put them on ridiculously huge money considering their ability at the time and there's so many more examples. That club is rotten to the core and needs a complete rebuild from top to bottom. But they can't afford it, hundreds of millions in debt to Moshiri, even more in debt in relation to the new stadium and over the summer they were mortgaging off future revenue streams and getting the football equivalent of payday loans to cover their running costs. I can see them going into admin at some point this season if the ownership isn't sorted quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 6 hours ago, ozvillafan said: That 2-3 defeat smacks of the same scoreline we suffered against Leicester City in the year we went down. This could be the year To be honest I'm surprised nobody had mentioned this sooner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 (edited) 6 hours ago, Zatman said: Of course they can get somebody better. That's the most Steve Bruce answer i ever heard Is hundreds of managers in Europe who would want the job and that would do half decent job with Everton That would want a job where you have a negative net spend every year whilst trying to stay competitive in the PL. I mean there are hundreds who would take it for the pay off, but you ain't getting quality unless you unearth an absolute gem and that ain't easy. Edit : Everton ain't had a positive net spend since 2020 when they spent 70m on Godfrey, Doucoure and Allan. Which says it all in itself. Edited September 1 by rodders0223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 1 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1 They are showing all the hallmarks of a team about to go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Just watched the highlights The marking and the tracking...**** hell...just don't bother They're raving about Tim, who let cook go for the 2nd? Couldn't make out if it was him, it's really poor It looks like they're set up really narrow to be tight and compact which means Bournemouth can spread it wide and get cross in but then they're not actually tight in the middle, there's loads of free attackers, it's a proper mess Quote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Yeah it was Tim. Ganas tracking back for one of the goals was terrible too. Worst thing was at 2-2 Pickford already had to make two saves, one was quite a good one and Bournemouth got it third time lucky. That's at least 6-7 chances/shots conceded in the last 7 minutes. It's utterly appalling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 jeez, thats 10 goals conceded in 3 matches and they're are on minus 8 already imagine being relegated then moving into that shiney new stadium in the Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 minute ago, imavillan said: jeez, thats 10 goals conceded in 3 matches and they're are on minus 8 already imagine being relegated then moving into that shiney new stadium in the Championship They probably need a squad reset in fairness. We desperately needed it when we dropped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 10 minutes ago, Tayls said: They probably need a squad reset in fairness. We desperately needed it when we dropped. They probably need to lose 100m revenue every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Everton with the proverbial snatching of defeat from victory. It reminded me a little of our capitulation against Wolves, under Smith. I don't think our defending was that bad though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 10 hours ago, Zatman said: Of course they can get somebody better. That's the most Steve Bruce answer i ever heard Is hundreds of managers in Europe who would want the job and that would do half decent job with Everton Difference with last few years is they've got decent attacking players now. Ndiaye looked alright yesterday from what I saw and Lindstrom is currently unused sub and he showed at Frankfurt he's got something about him, key part of their Europa league win. It's a gamble but results like yesterday really put Dyche on borrowed time as they can't keep gambling the three promoted teams will be completely awful every season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: Just watched the highlights The marking and the tracking...**** hell...just don't bother They're raving about Tim, who let cook go for the 2nd? Couldn't make out if it was him, it's really poor It looks like they're set up really narrow to be tight and compact which means Bournemouth can spread it wide and get cross in but then they're not actually tight in the middle, there's loads of free attackers, it's a proper mess Tim's generally playing well but I think the issue currently is he dosen't have the stamina yet to play 90 minutes at this level, seems he was flagging and needed to be taken off with 15 minutes to go hence being slower to notice the runs the Bournemouth midfielders were making. Probably seeing why Emery didn't really want to start him much in the run in last year but he does have talent and can make a career at this level. We saw it a little with Bogarde yesterday. Was o.k first half but then really struggled second half so people underestimate the sheer intensity at prem level now for young players new to the level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 hour ago, Tayls said: They probably need a squad reset in fairness. We desperately needed it when we dropped. Yeah - in the long term relegation *could* be to their benefit like it was with us. Think it all hinges on whether they get good new owners like we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 2 hours ago, VillaAlex said: Yeah it was Tim. Ganas tracking back for one of the goals was terrible too. Worst thing was at 2-2 Pickford already had to make two saves, one was quite a good one and Bournemouth got it third time lucky. That's at least 6-7 chances/shots conceded in the last 7 minutes. It's utterly appalling. The collapse was Sunday League esque - it was unfathomable how Bournemouth cut through their defensive lines so often and so easily. Embarrassing really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 10 hours ago, Zatman said: Of course they can get somebody better. That's the most Steve Bruce answer i ever heard Is hundreds of managers in Europe who would want the job and that would do half decent job with Everton Everton are a busted flush mate with no money to spend, a bit like us when we we’re circling the drain for many years, they can’t rely on their history to bail them out just like we couldn’t. The press might give them more sympathy than we got probably because they play in the North West but they are in just as much of a mess as we were. They’ll probably worm their way to survival again, they seem better at doing that than we do given it’s been 70 years since relegation and they should have gone down in the 90s, but stop making out loads of managers would want the job. The reality is Everton are a bottom 5 team nowadays, despite being a grand old club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wainy316 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 There's a disappointing lack of angry Everton fan content following the Bournemouth game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 On 01/09/2024 at 07:55, Stevo985 said: They are showing all the hallmarks of a team about to go down Yep but they started last season like this too. We beat them 4-0 without breaking a sweat in our first home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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