chrissmith921 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 If you ask me Everton have just had a prolonged spell of bad luck. I've said that previously. We do get kicked a lot though Trent, hence why we was most fouled team last year :winkold: A foul is not always a kick. Certainly not in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artetasgirl Posted September 10, 2010 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2010 Fellaini is a dirty ****. I dont care whether you want to get into a debate, a debate is where you can actually back up your idea to disprove the other. I'd say he's got his elbow in someones face 9 games out of 10. I think you might do well to step back and see both parts to an argument involving Everton... Granted I've not read every post of yours however a quick glance over the past few pages and its how Everton were robbed by the ref against Wolves, then poor Everton are getting kicked and referees arent doing anything about it... etc. You've got some nasty, horrid little **** in your squad who do more than a good job of kicking other players - Fellaini & Cahill are just two of those. I believe you get what you get because teams know they're in for a physical, aggressive game against you lot so give it back given the chance. Trouble is, you've got a team who can give it, but clearly can't take it. I've backed it up. I've been every game he's played for us. I've seen all the highlights, MOTD, Footy First, you name it, I watch. Who's to say I don't step back and see both sides?? Just because I disagree with the other side doesn't mean I don't see it. I've readily admitted when we've done wrong. I've already said I believe Cahill is a dirty player, many times in the past actually. He's also dirtier than Fellaini. For every "elbow", which is obviously 9 out of every 10 games, he gets a lot of red cards and charges by the FA doesn't he? Yeah, he's had precisely none. Cahill, meanwhile, he's had a fair few red cards. I think you'll find our players do get up and dust themselves down. I'm sure your not aware of the amount of times a lot of our players have played on with knocks and injuries because they actually want to carry on playing. There comes a point though that the tackles that hit them are causing injuries. Neville bad tackle by Pantsil/Etuhu (cant actually remember which), Pienaar bad tackle by Mokoena, Anichebe bad tackle by Nolan. I didn't say we were robbed by Wolves, I said the referee was a disgrace for BOTH teams. Our first goal, should of been a penalty, then should of been a foul before we scored. Their goal should of never got through as it was a foul on Heitinga. This all plus all the other shite decisions he made had both sets of fans giving him abuse. I didn't come on here and stick around to get in arguments but it's always likely when you're on an opposition forum so I expect it but I don't want it to be I'm only ever posting on this when it's an argument, so I'm stopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissmith921 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I think you'll find our players do get up and dust themselves down. I'm sure your not aware of the amount of times a lot of our players have played on with knocks and injuries because they actually want to carry on playing. There comes a point though that the tackles that hit them are causing injuries. Neville bad tackle by Pantsil/Etuhu (cant actually remember which), Pienaar bad tackle by Mokoena, Anichebe bad tackle by Nolan. And theres the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artetasgirl Posted September 10, 2010 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2010 And theres the problem. They don't all play on with knocks though. There came a point when they had to or we'd of been playing the youth team. That's what I meant. They came off with a knock before but when we were down with numbers they wanted to carry on playing or we'd of been down to kids. Anyway, I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissmith921 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 PS 99.999% of games both sides give the referee abuse. You have to look into it when one side does. Not both. Both is because all the 50-50's didnt go their teams way. One team moaning is because the 50-50s all went against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carew_villa Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I've got to agree with the people that are saying it's not 'bad luck' anymore. First of all I've got to say it was unlucky but this seems to be the third season in a row when Everton players have been injured for a long period and it is no coincidence now IMO. Either that or you have a lot of very injury prone players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davies4England Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 What is going on right now with Everton? Their fixture list doesn't get any easier soon either, Fulham and SHA away next both with good home records. Then the Merseyside derby at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carew_villa Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 How did the ref not send Fellaini off and how did he not give a penalty when Coleman took out Nolan in the box. That also should have been a red card aswell. I don't see why refs are so lenient on Fellaini, I'd send him of nearly every match if I was a ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 in all seriousness, when do you start to look at moyes and question him for they're slow starts. Every season they start badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Yesterday proved, once again, that Fellaini is a complete word removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 19, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2010 He's one of my most hated players with ease. Could do with some robust tackles at about knee height coming his way. As for Everton, I really don't think it's any different to their usual slow start. I remember hearing somewhere that they actually do it on purpose fitness wise to have an edge at the end of the season or something, not sure I believe it but hey ho. This season is only different because they've been particularly unlucky, their match against us for instance they should have romped away with, unfortunately for them our backs to the wall stuff worked and nothing fell for them. They'll do their normal thing soon enough and start winning more than they lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 19, 2010 Moderator Share Posted September 19, 2010 Another elbow assault from Fellaini this weekend I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knoppy1987 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Another elbow assault from Fellaini this weekend I see. Certainly was. A bold statement coming but surely it is just something natural that comes when he is jumping or tussling for a ball because nobody can be that stupid to just throw elbows at opposition players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 19, 2010 Moderator Share Posted September 19, 2010 Another elbow assault from Fellaini this weekend I see. Certainly was. A bold statement coming but surely it is just something natural that comes when he is jumping or tussling for a ball because nobody can be that stupid to just throw elbows at opposition players. Nothing natural about what he did on Saturday unless you've a natural desire to hurt people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerHQ Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 On another note, would anyone really pay 20m for Fellaini. Plenty of better midfielders out there, Pienaar for a start who could be on a free transfer at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parisvilla Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Love everton's hopeless starts to every season, i really really don't like them as a team; dirty, sly, cheating pricks. You've also got to question Moyes constantly picking midfielders like Cahill/Fellaini or the likes of Beckford ahead of Yakubu/Saha to start up front. no wonder they can't hit a barn door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerHQ Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Well Saha's injured tbf. Beckford simply isn't good enough for this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carew_villa Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Well Saha's injured tbf. Beckford simply isn't good enough for this level. But Yakubu is shit now, as he's about 35 years old. Everton have a team full of nobs. Cahill, Fellaini, Heitinga, Beckford, Pienaar.... I could go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Another elbow assault from Fellaini this weekend I see. I'm sure AG will call it self defence again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Is there any explanation as to why Everton have been so poor? No major injuries like last season by the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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