ender4 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 13 minutes ago, punkiller1981 said: It is a good achievement but they are an incredibly bad team so I think as much as anything it shows how poor the bottom of the league has been this year If they didn’t get a points deduction they are only 5 points from 8th position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 4 hours ago, punkiller1981 said: It is a good achievement but they are an incredibly bad team so I think as much as anything it shows how poor the bottom of the league has been this year LOL, 4th best defensive record in the division is now an incredibly bad team? Dyche has done amazing job, credit where credit is due. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 12 hours ago, Czarnikjak said: LOL, 4th best defensive record in the division is now an incredibly bad team? Dyche has done amazing job, credit where credit is due. 2nd lowest scoring team in the league after buying a 30 million striker. He has not done an amazing job at all. He kept them up but has done a pretty average job as thats not Everton ambition 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Just now, Zatman said: 2nd lowest scoring team in the league after buying a 30 million striker. He has not done an amazing job at all. He kept them up but has done a pretty average job as thats not Everton ambition Their only ambition is to remain a premier league club before the stadium move. That's all you can conclude when their accountants regularly say they're not 100% they can continue as a going concern without fresh capital received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 10 minutes ago, Zatman said: 2nd lowest scoring team in the league after buying a 30 million striker. He has not done an amazing job at all. He kept them up but has done a pretty average job as thats not Everton ambition That's just not true. If we had someone like Dyche when we was in the shit we'd have avoided relegation and not gone within days of being wound up. Everton is a shambles. The ambition is to sell players to make money , reduce the wage bill and not get relegated. It ain't pretty, it's a miserable existence for a fan but Dyche has been one of the managers of the season. When a club has given up, and they have, to have that figurehead who gets results, demands performances, and gets them out of shit players is absolutely priceless. We've had it in the past. Bruce. Tim. Garde. They saw the shit coming and gave up and let everyone give up to. Dyche has been incredible for that club, more so than a manager who gets football results. But you have an agenda against him and won't change that lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 12 minutes ago, Zatman said: 2nd lowest scoring team in the league after buying a 30 million striker. He has not done an amazing job at all. He kept them up but has done a pretty average job as thats not Everton ambition He won them 44 points so far, the same amount De Zerbi has with Brighton. With all the chaos behind the scenes and club being in danger of administration, this is great achievement by Dyche. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 44 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: He won them 44 points so far, the same amount De Zerbi has with Brighton. With all the chaos behind the scenes and club being in danger of administration, this is great achievement by Dyche. Yep ignoring their points deduction, they are 19 points above the relegation zone and 9-10 points away from a European place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 According to the Guardian, they've called in insolvency advisors. No sympathy at all for them and they need to be punished properly. They spent a fortune and failed. Didn't hear their fans complaining when they hired Ancelotti and signed Rodriguez on a massive salary as well as spending hundreds of millions on players that failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 34 minutes ago, Avfc96 said: According to the Guardian, they've called in insolvency advisors. No sympathy at all for them and they need to be punished properly. They spent a fortune and failed. Didn't hear their fans complaining when they hired Ancelotti and signed Rodriguez on a massive salary as well as spending hundreds of millions on players that failed. Not looking too good for them. 777 seem like they are a busted flush 777 are already 200 mill into Everton. But no nearer buying them. If they get turned down which looks likely then 777 will be trying to retrieve that money. Plus another local consortium have lent 160 mill for the stadium and have a 50% charge over Moshiri for that. Total nightmare . Be like piranhas tearing at any flesh left . Moshiri might well lose an insane amount of money when all this is put to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 I’d have thought Everton would be prime for a sportswashing country like Qatar? They failed in their United bid, why not Everton with a new stadium on the way? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 13 minutes ago, duke313 said: I’d have thought Everton would be prime for a sportswashing country like Qatar? They failed in their United bid, why not Everton with a new stadium on the way? The time for Qatar to 'invest' in an English football club has been and gone. They bought PSG 14 years ago with the intent of promoting the 2022 WC which they did and are now going the other way in terms of their investment with most of their high earners now gone and focusing on bringing through and signing younger players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 4 minutes ago, Avfc96 said: The time for Qatar to 'invest' in an English football club has been and gone. They bought PSG 14 years ago with the intent of promoting the 2022 WC which they did and are now going the other way in terms of their investment with most of their high earners now gone and focusing on bringing through and signing younger players. But they wanted to buy United, but lost the bid to Sir Jim Ratface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, Avfc96 said: The time for Qatar to 'invest' in an English football club has been and gone. They bought PSG 14 years ago with the intent of promoting the 2022 WC which they did and are now going the other way in terms of their investment with most of their high earners now gone and focusing on bringing through and signing younger players. Maybe time for Iran, North Korea and Houthi rebels to put in a joint bid to buy Everton. Should get passed the PL board just fine. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 19 hours ago, duke313 said: But they wanted to buy United, but lost the bid to Sir Jim Ratface. Possibly worth saying here that 'they' in that case was one member of the Qatari royal family, but the claim at the time was that he was bidding personally, not as a representative of the government or a state institution. Who knows, it might even have been at least partly true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 23 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said: Not looking too good for them. 777 seem like they are a busted flush 777 are already 200 mill into Everton. But no nearer buying them. If they get turned down which looks likely then 777 will be trying to retrieve that money. Plus another local consortium have lent 160 mill for the stadium and have a 50% charge over Moshiri for that. Total nightmare . Be like piranhas tearing at any flesh left . Moshiri might well lose an insane amount of money when all this is put to bed. I read that if 777 by the club what they've loaned is turned into equity (which I think is technical speak for, knocked off the asking price). If they don't then it's a loan that needs to be paid off by whoever comes next and makes them look very unattractive. I also read that they'll own part of the new stadium as it was technically their money that paid for its construction? It's a total mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 22 hours ago, duke313 said: I’d have thought Everton would be prime for a sportswashing country like Qatar? They failed in their United bid, why not Everton with a new stadium on the way? They are, right after they go insolvent. Then you get them for a great price and you have a team with a new shiny stadium on the cheap. Let moshiri take a bath on his investment first. As for Dyche it's total nonsense to claim that he's not doing a great job there. Without the deductions they would be mid table comfortably. Edited May 1 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 1 Moderator Share Posted May 1 23 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said: Moshiri might well lose an insane amount of money when all this is put to bed. And considering whose money that might actually be, he might be in even more trouble than you'd think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted May 1 Popular Post Share Posted May 1 Dyche is doing exactly what you would expect there, I'd even go as far as to say that if you went back to when he was appointed the majority on here predicted it He's kept them up, he would have got them to 10th to 15th it wasn't for the points deduction, he will get them comfortably 10th to 15th next season... All while playing a brand of football which is **** painful let alone garbage and has absolutely no future or anything to get excited about which for me is only slightly better than Steve Bruce... But if your ambition is stay up then it's a great job 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 6 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Dyche is doing exactly what you would expect there, I'd even go as far as to say that if you went back to when he was appointed the majority on here predicted it He's kept them up, he would have got them to 10th to 15th it wasn't for the points deduction, he will get them comfortably 10th to 15th next season... All while playing a brand of football which is **** painful let alone garbage and has absolutely no future or anything to get excited about which for me is only slightly better than Steve Bruce... But if your ambition is stay up then it's a great job There'll always be a market for those kinds of managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 8 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: There'll always be a market for those kinds of managers. Not really. They have been slowly and too slowly at that eradicated from the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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