bobzy Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 36 minutes ago, Zatman said: Some on here said Dyche was guaranteed survival as if he was some icon of management Don’t think anyone said they’re guaranteed to stay up - but he’s a much better manager than Frank Lampard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 It's so hard to turn a juggernaut of a club round when it's going to shit, as we found out. Looking back, the negativity around appointing Benitez then giving him a couple of million to spend was criminal really. They've never recovered from that and they were a bit shit before then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Dyche is a shite manager. A glorified Steve Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 He's won 2 out of 5 they would probably have took that when he took over. Next two games are key. They need 4 points from them and they desperately need calvert-lewin.back. Hes there only Hope. Maupay is a championship striker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Dyche is a shite manager. A glorified Steve Bruce. I think that's a bit harsh - I'm not sure too many managers would have had that Burnley squad doing much better. I think what Kompany has done with them has shown Dyche's ceiling. I think a fairer comparison might be Allardyce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 I still think they'll shithouse their way out of it, just, again. The fact that we turned them over at Goodison Park relatively easily means little when they have this uncanny ability to conjure up unlikely wins out of nowhere there. That said, I think it's between them and Leeds for that final spot, and maybe Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 7 hours ago, bobzy said: Don’t think anyone said they’re guaranteed to stay up - but he’s a much better manager than Frank Lampard. Was some on here guaranteeing them survival based on his appointment He is definitely better than Lampard but have no attacking tools at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 8 hours ago, Zatman said: Some on here said Dyche was guaranteed survival as if he was some icon of management Its not the results like yesterday that will determine whether they stay up, its the home games and the teams around them. They were always losing yesterday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 2-8 in GD over the 5 games since he took over. Pretty amazing they've managed to get 6 points out of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Its not the results like yesterday that will determine whether they stay up, its the home games and the teams around them. They were always losing yesterday Like Saturday vs us They also folded in the derby to a Liverpool in rotten form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 They need DCL back to play Dyche-ball. Smashing high balls into the box for Maupay to get in the end of is never going to work. It's funny to watch though. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkiller1981 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 7 hours ago, PaulC said: He's won 2 out of 5 they would probably have took that when he took over. Next two games are key. They need 4 points from them and they desperately need calvert-lewin.back. Hes there only Hope. Maupay is a championship striker. I think if they are waiting for DCL to save them they are in trouble. Ignoring the fact that he is always injured he is also actually crap too. He had one half decent season about 3 years ago but before and since has been average to poor at best. I have said this before but I think he is one of Everton’s biggest problems because the club are looking at him as if he is a super star striker based off that season and off the back of that not only haven’t replaced him they have actively let the one actual decent striker in richarleson leave. They won’t have much more of a goal threat than they currently have with Maupay when DCL returns so I think they are bang in trouble although as some have said they will probably scrap out probably by no more than a point with some 1-0 set piece goals. Fwiw I am worried Ollie Watkins current form might be similar to DCL and it disguises our need for a top level clinical striker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Maupay is still one of the shittest strikers in the league I still remember the anger from some because we didn't sign him 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 7 hours ago, StewieGriffin said: I think that's a bit harsh - I'm not sure too many managers would have had that Burnley squad doing much better. I think what Kompany has done with them has shown Dyche's ceiling. I think a fairer comparison might be Allardyce Also the championship is a different kettle of fish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 How many points do they need to survive do we think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Their defending last night was atrocious, Arsenal just opening them up at ease by playing passes between centre back and full back, and able to keep making it work because Everton are so static. The one thing you expect from a Dyche side is defensive organisation and commitment, and if that even isn't gonna happen I don't know what hope they've got. They may get just enough to get over the line, but they certainly aren't 'too good to go down' or whatever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Zatman said: Like Saturday vs us They also folded in the derby to a Liverpool in rotten form Yep that loss to us was bad one for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, punkiller1981 said: I think if they are waiting for DCL to save them they are in trouble. Ignoring the fact that he is always injured he is also actually crap too. He had one half decent season about 3 years ago but before and since has been average to poor at best. I have said this before but I think he is one of Everton’s biggest problems because the club are looking at him as if he is a super star striker based off that season and off the back of that not only haven’t replaced him they have actively let the one actual decent striker in richarleson leave. They won’t have much more of a goal threat than they currently have with Maupay when DCL returns so I think they are bang in trouble although as some have said they will probably scrap out probably by no more than a point with some 1-0 set piece goals. Fwiw I am worried Ollie Watkins current form might be similar to DCL and it disguises our need for a top level clinical striker. I think he would have got on the end of one of those McNeil crosses against us. Hes not the best but hes a massive aeriel threat. Edited March 2, 2023 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: How many points do they need to survive do we think ? I reckon it'll be about 34/35ish this season, so they'll need around 14 from their remaining 13 games, which isn't impossible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Mantis said: I reckon it'll be about 34/35ish this season, so they'll need around 14 from their remaining 13 games, which isn't impossible. They need to beat Forrest or Brentford next I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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