BOF Posted June 7, 2013 Moderator Share Posted June 7, 2013 Everton probably won't be as good as they were last season but that'll be as much to do with them learning their new manager's system as it will be to do with squad changes. But they're so far ahead of the chasing pack that it'll still take a mighty effort for anyone to catch them.I can see Everton slipping down to about 10th - 12th.Martinez will have roughly the same amount of $$$ as he had at Wigan and all the time he was there his teams regulary let in a hatful of goals.He does not know how to buy defenders.You're right, but he just inherited a good defence so; like when Wenger first joined Arsenal; his obvious flaw will be covered up for a while at least. Baines notwithstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Everton probably won't be as good as they were last season but that'll be as much to do with them learning their new manager's system as it will be to do with squad changes. But they're so far ahead of the chasing pack that it'll still take a mighty effort for anyone to catch them. How far ahead? They'll lose Fellaini, chances are they'll lose Baines. 11 years of Moyes over... I don't think that gap you speak of is big enough.I hope you're right. I just don't see Everton finishing below 7th. There isn't exactly much in the chasing pack that's making a bee-line for them. You could well be right. Though at the same time I'd be surprised to see 49 points being good enough for 8th this season and a 10 point drop for Everton is not beyond the realms of possibility. They won't be in a relegation battle, of that I'm confident. Though who thought this would happen to us post O'Neill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I'd say that given the resources he had at Everton, Moyes has been the best overall manager in the Premier League for the last several years. It is hard to argue. Mid Not to mention that Fellaini was his biggest buy at 15 million, that has been his only big buy. Didnt he spend £9m on Andy Johnson , £11m on Yakubu & £10m on billythingov ... £7m on Heitinga .... Most of their transfers seem to go through as undisclosed so its not easy to know but I'm not sure I totally buy the myth he didnt spend money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 19, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2013 Haha funny in work today as news of Manure's derisory bid for Baines and Fellani filtered through. They know its just the opening gambit, they know they'll be off. they also know Kenwright won't spend anywhere near all the money The manager they'e adored for years is suddenly the devil incarnate. As a spectator event its very amusing. They started out the day laughing at delusional Liverpool fans and by lunchtime were creating mad delusions all of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 19, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2013 seems really word removed of moyes though. Why not have done this a month ago?I would expect it has little to do with Moyes. He will have drawn up his want list, the money men will have done the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Yeah, I'm sure Moyes would have expressed his desire to sign those two several weeks ago, at least. Everton will be half crippled by this...and it'll make things even more wide open for a Europa League spot, which I'm convinced is within our grasp this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 19, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2013 Yeah, I'm sure Moyes would have expressed his desire to sign those two several months ago, at least. Everton will be half crippled by this...and it'll make things even more wide open for a Europa League spot, which I'm convinced is within our grasp this season.minor correction from a pedant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Man. United bid for Baines in July. Although anyone is most welcome to explain the logic of bidding the same amount for him 6 weeks later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 19, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2013 Man. United bid for Baines in July. Although anyone is most welcome to explain the logic of bidding the same amount for him 6 weeks later.Everton are skint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Leighton Baines is the Premier League role model for transfer window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Saw somewhere earlier (I forget where), that if (when) those two leave they will be after McCarthy from Wigan... He may be a decent player but surely Martinez must realise that there are other clubs out there and that all these players were the same ones that relegated Wigan last yr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Man. United bid for Baines in July. Although anyone is most welcome to explain the logic of bidding the same amount for him 6 weeks later. Everton are skint Yes but Everton rejected the first bid in July so I don't understand why Man. United are just coming back with the same bid again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) To unsettle the players and make Everton squirm. Everton aren't Spurs or Liverpool, they can't afford to turn down good money. They'll haggle until Martinez has his targets lined up but they will go to Manure and Everton will be significantly weakened. Edited August 19, 2013 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 WOW. I was mightily impressed by them last night. wasnt sure on Martinez but that 1st half was best team performance of season so far. their blend of youth and experience at the back was very good. also have probably the best 2 attacking full backs in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2013 Newcastle were an embarrassment in the first half though. Everton didn't really need to play that well to be 3 up. However, I've been far more impressed with Everton in other games this season other than the one last night. They're looking great. I thought they'd start terribly, and I couldn't have been more wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 that was 1st game i really watched as missed most of chelsea game. Martinez seems to have built on Moyes solid defence and left them alone while in comparison few seasons ago Houllier tried get our defence changed too quickly and pass out. anyway for me they could be dark horse if this is an open title race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) not for title but top 6 for sure zatman martinez is doing well there im glad we dont have to play them for a while ae they are the form team at the moment Edited October 1, 2013 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The loss of Fellaini hasn't hurt them too much at all and probably made them more of a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2013 Title race? They simply don't have the squad for that. They'll get found out too. Top 8 sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) maybe but they are already out of 1 cup so no distractions on that part. If some people consider Liverpool contenders(dont laugh) then why not Everton. granted i dont think they will win it but wouldnt be surprised if still involved until around March or April granted injuries adn suspensions need to be kind Edited October 1, 2013 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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