NIVillan Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Not seen a reference to it but didnt Hutton Jump up and pull Konchesky towards him and so caused the headbutt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 8, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2014 Not seen a reference to it but didnt Hutton Jump up and pull Konchesky towards him and so caused the headbutt No not really. For me the red card was a yellow for the challenge, and a yellow for the reaction (hence why Hutton also got a yellow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIVillan Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Not seen a reference to it but didnt Hutton Jump up and pull Konchesky towards him and so caused the headbutt No not really. For me the red card was a yellow for the challenge, and a yellow for the reaction (hence why Hutton also got a yellow) Hutton grabs his leg and pulls Konk towards himself as he is getting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted December 8, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2014 Lambert was just following orders I reckon, from that pair of idiots Lerner and Faulkner. /facepalm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Not seen a reference to it but didnt Hutton Jump up and pull Konchesky towards him and so caused the headbutt No not really. For me the red card was a yellow for the challenge, and a yellow for the reaction (hence why Hutton also got a yellow) It was a straight red he was shown though wasn't it, not two yellows. To me the challenge itself warranted a straight red, it looked nasty in the replays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 8, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2014 Not seen a reference to it but didnt Hutton Jump up and pull Konchesky towards him and so caused the headbutt No not really. For me the red card was a yellow for the challenge, and a yellow for the reaction (hence why Hutton also got a yellow) It was a straight red he was shown though wasn't it, not two yellows. To me the challenge itself warranted a straight red, it looked nasty in the replays. Yeah it was, but I think the ref would have just given him a yellow if it wasn't for the reaction. I don't think the challenge was a straight red. but who knows. This is precisely the sort of time you wish refs could explain themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I think that challenge was worth a yellow and the one on Westwood was a def red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I watched a replay of it last night. Konchevsky either says something really incendiary to get Alan to leap to his feet and confront him like that, or he spits on him (it's kind of hard to see because at the key moment, another player crosses between Konchevsky and the camera). If he spat and the ref or linesman saw it, it would certainly explain the red. I thought it was kind of telling that Konchevsky didn't really protest at all when he was shown the red. His teammates did, of course, but that's to be expected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Lambert was just following orders I reckon, from that pair of idiots Lerner and Faulkner. /facepalm Indeed. I am sure Lambert loved bombing out an internatioanl right back who played his entire career in top flight football and replacing him with a league 1 player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Lambert was just following orders I reckon, from that pair of idiots Lerner and Faulkner. /facepalm Indeed. I am sure Lambert loved bombing out an internatioanl right back who played his entire career in top flight football and replacing him with a league 1 player. Sorry, you've both lost me. How does me saying that Lambert was following orders from people higher up in the club disagree with your comment? I've said all along that I don't think it was Lambert's decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 8, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 8, 2014 Not seen a reference to it but didnt Hutton Jump up and pull Konchesky towards him and so caused the headbutt No not really. For me the red card was a yellow for the challenge, and a yellow for the reaction (hence why Hutton also got a yellow) It was a straight red he was shown though wasn't it, not two yellows. To me the challenge itself warranted a straight red, it looked nasty in the replays. Yeah it was, but I think the ref would have just given him a yellow if it wasn't for the reaction. I don't think the challenge was a straight red. but who knows. This is precisely the sort of time you wish refs could explain themselves. On on of the replays you clearly see the red reach for his yellow before the afters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Lambert was just following orders I reckon, from that pair of idiots Lerner and Faulkner. /facepalm Indeed. I am sure Lambert loved bombing out an internatioanl right back who played his entire career in top flight football and replacing him with a league 1 player. Sorry, you've both lost me. How does me saying that Lambert was following orders from people higher up in the club disagree with your comment? I've said all along that I don't think it was Lambert's decision. Was in response to the facepalm comment, which I took to mean, that the notion that the bomb squad was Lambert following orders was inconceivable. I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Hutton has obviously been bitten by some kind of rabbid animal. I cannot remember a player being so god awful to putting in regularly decent performances. I can only assume he got bitten by some feral beast whilst on loan in Spain.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Just found this. I like him even more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 He's playing like a man with a point to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Just read an article in the mail about how delighted he was to hear the Holte seranading him , brought a tear to my eye . Apparently it's the Walking in a Hutton wonderland ditty . I do take exception to the " he used to be shite " line , it should be " we thought he was shite " , after all a player is either shit or good . Hutton is a good player who went through a rough patch , that is the nature of talent , it fluctuates , unless your a Messi or Ronaldo . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hutton has obviously been bitten by some kind of rabbid animal. I cannot remember a player being so god awful to putting in regularly decent performances. I can only assume he got bitten by some feral beast whilst on loan in Spain.... That's because in reality he never was. Just got associated with the whole McLeish hating thing. I really don't recall him standing out as particularly poor that season, in fact he probably played OK through a lot of very poor team performances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hutton has obviously been bitten by some kind of rabbid animal. I cannot remember a player being so god awful to putting in regularly decent performances. I can only assume he got bitten by some feral beast whilst on loan in Spain.... I never thought he was that bad and got slated for it at the time. There were a few crap performers under McLeish but Hutton became the whipping boy because he was a McLeish signing. He has played well for Scotland a number of times since he was left out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Lambert was just following orders I reckon, from that pair of idiots Lerner and Faulkner. /facepalm Indeed. I am sure Lambert loved bombing out an internatioanl right back who played his entire career in top flight football and replacing him with a league 1 player. Sorry, you've both lost me. How does me saying that Lambert was following orders from people higher up in the club disagree with your comment? I've said all along that I don't think it was Lambert's decision. I cannot believe that any manager would sign up to, and indeed remain in, a position where he is being instructed by people who have proved they know little about football, as to which players in the squad he can play. I would be disappointed in Lambert if that was the case. I prefer to think that it was his idea, that he saw it was not working and changed his mind, hence the bomb squad back in and young and hungry out, as that would show some guts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I cannot believe that any manager would sign up to, and indeed remain in, a position where he is being instructed by people who have proved they know little about football, as to which players in the squad he can play. I would be disappointed in Lambert if that was the case. I prefer to think that it was his idea, that he saw it was not working and changed his mind, hence the bomb squad back in and young and hungry out, as that would show some guts. It happens all the time I reckon. Even that well-known control freak Martin O'Neill looked to have been told not to play Curtis Davis because of the pay rise that would kick in when he'd played a game or two more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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