blandy Posted September 5, 2018 Moderator Share Posted September 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, BOF said: I think both of you realise the damage that is being done so you don't see things differently in that sense. The only difference, to put it bluntly, is that only one of you seems to care. To be fair, we both care, but I care more for the birds than the cats, and Ruge the other way round, perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, blandy said: To be fair, we both care, but I care more for the birds than the cats, and Ruge the other way round, perhaps. I love birds tbf. Can sit there watching them for hours if I had the time. As I said, I didn't know the damage it was doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Every nature documentry stress`es survival of the fittest.The weaker ones get killed off or eaten and the fitter/smarter stronger ones go on to survive and pass on their genes to the next generation.Looking at it this way, cats are actually helping the other critters to survive better.I know cats were introduced by us but then so were countless other species introduced into different inviroments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 If we, as sentient beings though, have the opportunity to intervene to stop another Dodo type scenario is that not something worthwhile as an endeavour? Since the Zoolological community made the move away from showing Elephants and Tigers off as some sort of freak show and made a conscious move towards preservation and conservation it has been a success overall only captive breeding programmes are not foolproof and if the opportunity arises to preserve a small piece of natural habitat I'd have thought we could handle that without anyone having to worry about their rights to own a pet being trampled on. And I love cats me. Of course everyone is overlooking the idea that cats were used to warn of evil and all that so I'm sure its just a cover for the aliens to finally get off Antartica and give them some feeding grounds down by the fox glacier and that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 6, 2018 Moderator Share Posted September 6, 2018 41 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: Every nature documentry stress`es survival of the fittest.The weaker ones get killed off or eaten and the fitter/smarter stronger ones go on to survive and pass on their genes to the next generation.Looking at it this way, cats are actually helping the other critters to survive better.I know cats were introduced by us but then so were countless other species introduced into different inviroments. You're conflating 2 completely different scenarios. Survival of the fittest goes out the window when a species has been artificially introduced into an environment not set up to handle it. Hence why invasive species are so catastrophic for bio-diversity. See also lion fish in the Atlantic, snakeheads in North America etc. There are many examples. Anyway, I think everyone gets the general jist by now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Reggie squeezed through a gap in my stairwell window and jumped/fell two floors down this morning and I can't find him..new neighborhood as well so he has no reference points... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 One of the strays, that basically live at my mums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robtaylor200 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) Always been a dog person. But when I moved in with Mrs T 10 years ago she had two cats. Tinkerbell and Charlie. I realised they have personalities too. Tinkerbell liked to be fussed and stroked, Charlie hates every one, comes in and whinges until he is fed and then goes to bed, until its time to go out again. The sodding neighbours over the road decided to keep leaving food out and Tinkerbell went to live over there, until she became ill. Then they came to tell us OUR cat was ill in their back garden. Too late Tink had to be put to sleep. I told them if they ever start feeding Charlie I will brick their windows. Little shit he hates me, sleeps on my soft top ( I keep a lint roller in the boot and have to get his bloody hair off every time I go out), he lies on my clothes, gets on my seat as soon as I get up to do something, and wakes me up in the night if he is in for no reason at all. He wont eat unless I stand by his bowl for a few minutes and for some reason has to come and watch me on the bog. He lets Mrs T stroke him, but does ninja tactics if I try. He follows me up and down garden and sits by me in the sun (unless I reach out to pat him) Little shit, yep I love him to bits he is a grumpy old man like me . Edited September 9, 2018 by Robtaylor200 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maqroll Posted September 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2018 21 hours ago, maqroll said: Reggie squeezed through a gap in my stairwell window and jumped/fell two floors down this morning and I can't find him..new neighborhood as well so he has no reference points... Guess who returned 20 hours later at 1AM? Cheeky devil 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Milfner Posted September 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) Never got round to posting this but three weeks ago we found three kittens behind our shed at the bottom of the garden. Mom was around too but had to fetch them inside because they were in such a bad way). They had absolutely awful conjunctivitis (so much so their eyes sealed shut if they went to sleep), really underweight, riddled with fleas and had a respiratory infection. First week was touch and go, had a few 3am alarms to feed them their antibiotics and clean their eyes and put in eye drops. Anyway, three weeks on, they’ve all put on 50% of their body weight from when we found them and in really good health! Edited September 9, 2018 by Milfner 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) On 05/09/2018 at 13:44, Rugeley Villa said: I understand the cat shit argument, and I'm with you on that. I can't imagine that's pleasant at all. It's not just cat shit. It's cats fighting with other cats because they're just let out to 'do their thing' and the owners only really care if they have to fork out for a vet's bill or because their own cat is the one to get hurt. It's cats digging up people's gardens and plants when they have a piss or a shit. It's cats trying to get in to people's houses through open windows that mean you've got to be on the alert so you don't have someone else's pet coming in to your house and causing all sorts of mayhem - knocking stuff over, getting scared and pissing all over the place, scratching the shit out of your furniture, &c. It's not really cats with which I have a problem (I don't - I find it hard to dislike any animals), it's their owners. Edited September 9, 2018 by snowychap Edited out a somewhat indelicate comment given someone else's circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 44 minutes ago, snowychap said: It's cats trying to get in to people's houses through open windows that mean you've got to be on the alert so you don't have someone else's pet coming in to your house and causing all sorts of mayhem What, cats like this ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: What, cats like this ? I've got nothing worth robbing. No, a couple of the local moggies. One I had to shoo off the upstairs landing window ledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 9, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 9, 2018 3 hours ago, maqroll said: Guess who returned 20 hours later at 1AM? Cheeky devil Great news. Soft bastard that I am, I was quite worried about Reggie. I know what it's like to lose them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Great news. Soft bastard that I am, I was quite worried about Reggie. I know what it's like to lose them. I rode my bike all over the area last night whistling for him to no avail. I admit at a couple of points I could feel tears well up. You don't realize just how deep the bond can become. Edited September 9, 2018 by maqroll 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robtaylor200 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 05/09/2018 at 14:00, Rugeley Villa said: I went to a zoo the other year, and they had what looked like a domesticated cat in one of the enclosures. It was just like a normal cat, but bigger. They live in parts of Scotland, and are able to live in the wild and survive. Lovely looking things, but I can imagine they can be very vicious. My mum used to have two feral cats, well part feral. They were a bit bigger than your usual cat, and obviously had a bit more about them in terms of hunting. One got mauled to death by a staffy. That's unusual Staffies are normally very loving. We used to look after a friends Staffy some weekends. Fantastic loving dog. He wanted to play with Charlie, but left with a scar on his nose. We cant look after him any more as Charlie wont let him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Robtaylor200 said: That's unusual Staffies are normally very loving. We used to look after a friends Staffy some weekends. Fantastic loving dog. He wanted to play with Charlie, but left with a scar on his nose. We cant look after him any more as Charlie wont let him. They have a bad reputation, but imo it's pure ignorance. Very loving dog, and a good family dog, regardless of what some people say about them. The only thing with a staffy is, that if you do get a bad un for whatever reason, or one does turn for whatever reason, they can do some damage. Our cat ruled over our staffy, and the dog knew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 some beauties here, real exotic ones too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I think mountain lions are the most beautiful cat but lynx are pretty amazing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Snow Leopard's reaction to the new camera trap in her enclosure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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