maqroll Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Pleasant common sense video. But the presenter is sensational. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted July 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2018 So Gilbert comes home today after being gone almost 2 days, meowing and limping. A visit to the veterinary emergency room at $600 reveals a broken hip. They recommend surgery that will likely cost $3000-$4500. Doing nothing will lead to impaired mobility and a life of arthritis. He's only a little over a year old, so that's a long life of suffering, and our daughter will go ballistic if we tell her we're not getting him fixed up. This cat is a wanderer in a high traffic area that has coyotes roaming at night, so I can see him getting hit by a car or eaten by a coyote withing months of us spending a fortune on him. After these cats pass on maybe we'll stick to goldfish... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) On 15/07/2018 at 07:35, il_serpente said: . After these cats pass on maybe we'll stick to goldfish... Or just spend a few quid a month on pet insurance! Too late for this occasion, but it's well worth it to get out of this position of having to weigh up how much your pet's health is worth. Edited July 21, 2018 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Our youngest is a right terror, or should I say he's just being a cat. Great bird catcher, and I recognise the noises now. Heard the same noise the other day, and thought, he's got another bird. Looked out of the back window, and he had. Managed to save a mouse the other day. Eventually diverted it out of the house by opening the door for it(the sod never even said thank you). As well pleased until it ran under our car, and our eldest cat was there and grabbed it. Went after the cat, and luckily with him being a softy, he kept letting the mouse go. The mouse played dead, and I grabbed it by the tail, and put him somewhere out of the way so it could escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted August 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) Mrs H and the kids are away in Hungary so I'm home alone this week 2 am this morning i get woken up by someone playing the piano in the boys bedroom (badly i should add , thus my first instinct was that it was the boy and he'd somehow come home ) I went in there and the Cat was walking up and down along the keys having the time of it's life ... weird thing is it's an electric piano and the cat has to have physically located the on button and pushed it down in order to make it work ... but its why cats are cooler than dogs , all dogs can do is say "sausages" for Esther Rantzen , mine thinks its Andre Previn poxy thing then woke me up at 6 am cause it was hungry ... she's not in my good books this morning Edited August 16, 2018 by tonyh29 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 16, 2018 37 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: the Cat was walking up and down along the keys having the time of it's life ...... its why cats are cooler than dogs , all dogs can do is say "sausages" 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 hours ago, blandy said: My cat informs me this is fake news 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Was walking down the street with family a few years ago and a dog comes barreling down the hallway and through an open front door barking at us. Little did resident dog know, resident cat was napping on the front porch, and took offense to being awoken so rudely, so this cat has just gone straight up to the dog and bopped him one on the head. The dog shut up immediately. Good times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 On 15/07/2018 at 02:35, il_serpente said: So Gilbert comes home today after being gone almost 2 days, meowing and limping. A visit to the veterinary emergency room at $600 reveals a broken hip. They recommend surgery that will likely cost $3000-$4500. Doing nothing will lead to impaired mobility and a life of arthritis. He's only a little over a year old, so that's a long life of suffering, and our daughter will go ballistic if we tell her we're not getting him fixed up. This cat is a wanderer in a high traffic area that has coyotes roaming at night, so I can see him getting hit by a car or eaten by a coyote withing months of us spending a fortune on him. After these cats pass on maybe we'll stick to goldfish... Can you purchase pet insurance over there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted August 19, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2018 9 hours ago, maqroll said: Can you purchase pet insurance over there? I think you can. I'd never heard of it before reading about it on VT. My wife was familiar with it, though. Her argument is that over 25 years of owning cats she would have spent way more on insurance than we've just spent getting him repaired. As long as you can absorb the big hit when it happens, it's probably more cost effective in the long run to not have the insurance. On the other hand, with insurance you don't have to do the cost-benefit analysis of getting them fixed when bad things happen. On a side note, I just got back from a block party and a woman from down the street came up to me and asked what had happened to Gilbert. Several others were very interested to hear the story and they all started sharing Gilbert anecdotes. Turns out our little guy is a bit of a celebrity on our block and well-loved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 30, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 30, 2018 Controversial, and yet I can see why. Cats are lovely and all that, but when they're outside they're a **** disaster for biodiversity. New Zealand council plans to ban all pet cats That headline should probably read "A council in New Zealand ..." Quote Don't go to New Zealand if you're a cat person. There are loads of cat lovers in Ireland. Sure, they probably don't get the same love as dogs, but who does? Either way, we don't think people would want to get rid of them entirely. Well, a new initiative in Omaui, in the Southland region of New Zealand wants to do just that. The initiative, proposed by Environment Southland, wants cat owners to neuter, microchip, and register their cat with local authorities. Then, once their pet dies, they will not be allowed to get any more. Seems a little harsh... The reason for this is that cats in the area are responsible for the deaths of millions of birds, insects, reptiles and mammals every year. Biosecurity operations manager Ali Meade told Newshub that: "There's cats getting into the native bush; they're preying on native birds, they're taking insects, they're taking reptiles - all sorts of things. They're doing quite a bit of damage." Environment Southland are keen to stress they're "not cat haters" but they're trying to promote "responsible pet ownership" and that Omaui is really not a place for cats. Speaking about the ban, Meade said: "Your cat can live out its natural life at Omaui happily doing what it's doing. But when it dies, you wouldn't be able to replace it." We wonder if we could do this with those really brave pigeons in Dublin. They're getting far too big for their boots... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 14 hours ago, BOF said: Controversial, and yet I can see why. Cats are lovely and all that, but when they're outside they're a **** disaster for biodiversity. By this rationale, surely they should be banning all humans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 31, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 hours ago, MrDuck said: By this rationale, surely they should be banning all humans. Typical response for a "Mr. Duck" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Thats the biggest load of BS I have ever read. Cats are preying on Bugs? and other insects ? Like these bugs and other insects dont have any natural predators that prey on them, its all the cats fault ? Birds dont have any other natural predators either ? like hawks or possoms, thats all down to the cats as well ? Using that logic maybe we should ban cats all over the world so the insects can be left alone.What about cars ! they cause a lot of deaths and maim people all over the world.Maybe we should ban cars as well as cats. This is the sort of logic I would expect from a government/council where the members have tatoos on their faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Quote Like these bugs and other insects dont have any natural predators that prey on them, its all the cats fault ? Birds dont have any other natural predators either ? like hawks or possoms, thats all down to the cats as well ? Well, yes, but in a natural ecosystem. Insects and birds get eaten by their natural predators. If those predators over breed or over eat, the dwindling population of their prey restricts their food sources, and the number of predators begin to dwindle. Their prey can thrive again for a short time, and their numbers swell. So the predators find it easier to find food. and so on. That doesn't work so much when the predator is an animal that hunts for fun, rather than survival, because they can waddle off home and eat their free food, at no risk of over hunting. Domestic cats do huge damage to natural ecosystems. It doesn't just affect the insects and birds they eat, it affects the predators of those animals who have to compete with cats for their food. It's not just one council going off half-cocked. In Canada for example they've been encouraging people to keep pet cats as indoor only animals to protect the local ecosystems. The RSPCA encourages cats to be either kept indoors, or to at least have collars with bells fitted to reduce cats' success when hunting. Edited September 2, 2018 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 2, 2018 Moderator Share Posted September 2, 2018 55 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: Thats the biggest load of BS I have ever read. link Quote Cats take a hefty toll on Australia’s reptiles – killing an estimated 649 million of them every year, including threatened species – according to our new research published in the journal Wildlife Research. This follows the earlier discovery that cats take a similarly huge chunk out of Australian bird populations. As we reported last year, more than a million Australian birds are killed by cats every day. Since their introduction to Australia, cats have also driven many native mammal speciesextinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 2, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 2, 2018 Cats are atrocious for natural wildlife. I'm not surprised somewhere like New Zealand, with a very unique ecology and one that is very unused to creatures like cats being in it, is encouraging there to be less of them. It's a practice that should spread. Cats are vile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chindie said: It's a practice that should spread. Cats are vile. There's probably a sensible middle ground to be reached, but this isn't really the way to do it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I can only go by my owne experiance with our cats.If you look at page 35 in this thread you will see that one of our cats caught a mouse and as soon as we had seen it the cat (Mr Grump ) let it go.As for our other cat (Chloepop ) she chases white butterflies sometimes and if she catches one she will eat it.Im sure this is not doing any real harm to the enviroment or to the balance of nature.I still find it hard to believe that cats will eat insects in any great quantity. In New Zealand, duck hunting and pig hunting is very popular, surely this is harming the natural inviroment more than cats !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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