mjmooney Posted May 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, BOF said: Cheers guys. I managed the stoic stiff upper lip whilst biting the inside of the mouth trick, but it wouldn't have taken a whole lot more and I think they knew that. Maybe my face and voice betrayed me as there was minimal conversation as they gave me back the empty cat box. Oh, I was the same at the vets. It was when I got home I lost it. I buried him in the garden. Edited May 19, 2017 by mjmooney 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 This is Honey cat. Can't believe I've had her 4 years. She was a rescue, picked her up from the RSPCA in Cannock. She'd had 2 litters by the time she was 18months as her previous owners were farming her. She's so chilled. Loves a belly rub and attention. She's got the patience of a Saint too, our 3 year old isn't exactly gentle with her but she's only ever scratched him once, and that took a long time to come about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 That sucks. It must be heartbreaking giving the instruction to put her to sleep, but it sounds like it was the kindest thing to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 10 hours ago, maqroll said: If you let it out without supervision, it'll go wherever it wants. You could set up remote electro-schock parameters like people have for dogs, but then I'd have to find you and kill you. that sounds a bit.... "Perimeter, activated.... perimeter, activated.... perimeter, activated" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Raver50032 said: I couldn't help but think of Kit from Knight Rider, or the General Lee from Dukes Of Hazzard whizzing by your new house day in, day out! That's how it seems fella, cars are maybe about 50-70mph but a cat crossing has not long to see / hear which direction its coming... and these roadkill animals never seem to get it right. i think i will though, but later in the year. Motorbikes though, motorcyslsits love that road, get a lot of groups and individuals come through flying down... I just hate mice and rats, really hate them. And these little guys will sort that, cats scent everything too so that alone helps keep these scumbags away. The page before there, there was someone saying about the rat in their house.... fair play to that cat. That cat, was bringing that rat in to show off, as in, look who i found skulking about outside OUR home, now just let me toy with him for a bit and eat his head and you can clear up. People say about dogs only ones that show companionship but there is definitely an US thing with cats, especially when they come to keeping your gaff clear of rodents. That's why theyre so proud when they catch something. Also, yeah sad to read about yours there @BOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Midfielder said: That's how it seems fella, cars are maybe about 50-70mph but a cat crossing has not long to see / hear which direction its coming... and these roadkill animals never seem to get it right. i think i will though, but later in the year. Motorbikes though, motorcyslsits love that road, get a lot of groups and individuals come through flying down... I just hate mice and rats, really hate them. And these little guys will sort that, cats scent everything too so that alone helps keep these scumbags away. The page before there, there was someone saying about the rat in their house.... fair play to that cat. That cat, was bringing that rat in to show off, as in, look who i found skulking about outside OUR home, now just let me toy with him for a bit and eat his head and you can clear up. People say about dogs only ones that show companionship but there is definitely an US thing with cats, especially when they come to keeping your gaff clear of rodents. That's why theyre so proud when they catch something. Also, yeah sad to read about yours there @BOF Some cats learn to stay away from cars, however those sort of speeds could be a problem. There's been some good studies done with perimeter fences with pheromone activated collars, but they are extremely expensive and I think you'd feel quite bad for the cat as it gets used to it. Alternatively, owls. (just throwing that out there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Some cats learn to stay away from cars, however those sort of speeds could be a problem. There's been some good studies done with perimeter fences with pheromone activated collars, but they are extremely expensive and I think you'd feel quite bad for the cat as it gets used to it. Alternatively, owls. (just throwing that out there) Got owls in and around also some huge birds of prey which when I think about it could quite fancy some kitten or cat for tea. Yeah I will definitely look into it. Later in the year house isn't fully habitable and with how much they sniff about and explore surfaces all one would encounter now is dust , chemical treatments and whatever. When it comes to cats and dogs I like both but the idea of something that can get a plus on mice is what I'm after. Won't be buying some pedigree just a moggy from some litter. And for sure it will be male so I can call it Mellberg maybe. If after a while it gets no confirmed kills I'll call it Balaban. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 19, 2017 We had two cats, Louis (the one in my avatar), and his sister Ella. They were hilariously different - Ella was a killing machine. Fortunately, she specialised in rodents, with only the very occasional bird for variety. Louis didn't have the first clue about how to catch mice - he would follow her round and watch in utter amazement as she demonstrated the technique, but he never quite got it. And he seemed to actually like birds - to the point where the birds in our garden knew which cat was which. If they spotted Ella, they scarpered, but learned to ignore Louis, as being no threat. I once saw a blackbird digging for worms no more than a foot away from him. But Ella HAD to catch a bare minimum of one mouse per day, or she'd get quite antsy. And it was her downfall - we live on a busy road, with a farmer's field on the other side. On one of her nocturnal hunts she fell foul of the traffic. Poor Louis was never the same again. They used to share their food dish, and for weeks after she died, he would eat his half (right half of the dish - Ella was 'left handed' opening doors, and was very OCDish about having to eat on the left side of the bowl) and leave the rest, and then go and wait by the catflap for her. But his timidity was good, because he never went near the road, and had a few more years before his liver gave out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 19, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, mjmooney said: he would eat his half and leave the rest, and then go and wait by the catflap for her. Ah jayzus. The poor little sod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Midfielder said: Got owls in and around also some huge birds of prey which when I think about it could quite fancy some kitten or cat for tea. Yeah I will definitely look into it. Later in the year house isn't fully habitable and with how much they sniff about and explore surfaces all one would encounter now is dust , chemical treatments and whatever. When it comes to cats and dogs I like both but the idea of something that can get a plus on mice is what I'm after. Won't be buying some pedigree just a moggy from some litter. And for sure it will be male so I can call it Mellberg maybe. If after a while it gets no confirmed kills I'll call it Balaban. I meant as in try to keep an owl in a nesting box in a tree if there's trees near by to catch the mice. No owl in Britain eats cats as cats are an African species. Even the biggest owl we have called the Eagle owl only eats rodents. Owls are even better at catching mice than cats are - I've got a mate who has a tawny owl breeding in his barn who has seen the same male owl catch 14 mice in one evening just before sunset. Alternatively, get a dachshund. They're known to hunt and kill rats and rodents. Edited May 19, 2017 by magnkarl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Cheers pal. It'll be the cat, decided. Walks itself and if need be can get an automatic food dispenser that serves a few meals on rotation if I have to go away. Won't leave the thing entirely alone of course. I look forward to it. Until the day it starts on the corners of the furniture. But, "training" I guess. The road is a worry though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted May 19, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 hour ago, BOF said: Ah jayzus. The poor little sod He never saw the body, so he must have wondered where she was. She used to roam for miles, but he hardly went beyond the back garden. When I called them in for food, he was always right there, but had to wait until she made her way back from several gardens away. So he'd stand in the middle of the lawn and crane his neck in all directions looking - he wouldn't risk actually going off too far. This went on for several weeks after she'd gone. My missus said he was like half a cat ever after. This was him, watching the 2014 World Cup... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) She's lucky she had you as a friend @BOF Glad to hear she wasn't in distress. My last cat was 19 years old when he died, and I really regret not putting him down earlier, because he suffered the throes of death for about 36 hours, but I was blinded. I'll never make that mistake again. Amazing the bonds we form with the little creatures. Edited May 20, 2017 by maqroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted May 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2017 Sorry to hear about your loss, BOF. I've never had to put one down or even see the body of a pet that's passed, but I was crushed when Koko never came back from one of her walkabouts a few months ago. My wife had to put down a cat that had been by her side for a dozen years, from earliest adulthood and wild parties with friends, through law school and onto parenthood, moving back and forth across the US with her. She was a wreck when she came back from the vets, and if you were feeling anything like she looked that day I'm sure it must have been gut-wrenching. For us, getting a couple of rescue kittens has helped in putting Koko's loss behind us, particularly the kids. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 @mjmooney, that post read like an Italian opera. Getting misty over here, wtf Mike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 On 20/05/2017 at 07:36, maqroll said: @mjmooney, that post read like an Italian opera. Getting misty over here, wtf Mike. Yeah I just read this through, makes quite sad reading. Us as a species that's one thing but despite their differences of how they think and their recall, it's sad reading Mooney's and BOf's posts because the other cats or dogs or any animal, they "get it" but don't get the answer. I know this is weird me trying to explain above but well read in behavioural sciences etc and it's weird and kinda quite sad to think they have different stages of grief to us. They never get closure in a way like we do but just pine for their sibling or "housemate" until the pining lessens but they aren't actually all that primal their recall is still significant to be continually on their mind. They don't fully know they are dead as to them themselves they're not inherently even aware of what death is to themselves (and their own killing / finding animal carcasses doesn't count) so they are left wondering when their bud is coming home or simply why they haven't and what was wrong So anyway quite sad reading these. Yeah maybe the above is a bit deep but no one really thinks about that stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Midfielder Posted May 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) Also technically I do have a cat! Way back in 2007 I rented a place , turns out the woman who lived there had a cat on the sly, she lived there 2 years and about 6 months in so the neighbour said, some psycho clearing in the woods partner moved in with her and the cat was kicked out about 6 months old and forced to live outside the house as a stray that she would bother with when "he" wasn't around and would leave food dishes hidden in residents car park. Rural area just fields. Anyway...... so I move in and on day 1 i was upstairs having a dump and had the small window open. This fker comes in through the window god knows how he got up there and that's how we met. Poor thing was skinny as hell fur missing in places had most teeth missing too. From that day on, he was soppy and clearly had been abused to hell. Would run at the sight of certain stuff. Everyday objects you know. So I kinda liked it for a bit but then, like now, sometimes work really long hours and sometimes would literally sleep at hospital and be away for days. Anyway so as it turns out my neighbour said yeah he's been out miaowing non stop looking at the windows. Long story this sorry. Anyway so after a few weeks as much as I loved him, bossy little alpha thing, I couldn't look after him nor did I even have permission for cat flap. Gave him to girlfriend of the times nan. Will never forget the fear in him as we drove him to redditch that day and when let out the carrier how he hid for hours. Anyway she passed away three years ago and I was literally left him in her will, even after I had split up with that ex. So gave him back to my parents. So after 6 years of never seeing me, when I went back to my parents that time just as you do, people say a cats recall ability is what about four years maybe. Is it f... this cat came to me and went crazy and does every time I go back to theirs. Ok this will sound really soppy, but I head bump him to greet him too, he won't rest until I have done that. I used to do this to him in the month I owned him in 2007 as I knew that's sorta how cats greet etc. So yeah to this day, every time I go to my parents he goes crazy and will jump on any high surface just for the head bump it's the soppiest thing to admit , if I go back for weekend he tails me day and night. If he's asleep and I go for a piss he get up. When I drive off he sulks for days. Weird to admit but since this is cats thread there's my contribution. As said I've never had pets properly, family dog at best cats owned by mum but this cat is something else. Also to know he's had several owners and knew for a fact exs nan died (in her sleep) and he was there, oh they definitely know. In fact I'd go as far as to say they know days before (breathing patterns change and heart rate) and cats are very sensitive to both of these and sense health I swear they do. Anyeay long post but getting a little soppy reading you lads posts because this cat we have no idea his real age but can guess it sort of but yeah he is a brute but totally house cat now. Which I know might be imprisonment for a former outdoors cat but he don't care, he is the most canine cat you'd ever meet and not quite independent. Had the crap beat out of him repeatedly with whatever. In fact that neighbour of the time even told me once that every now and then (paper thin walls) she'd hear a cat squeeling and the sound of footsteps racing up and down the stairs after the noise. So yeah some animals have a hard life but nice when they get past all that, if they can, because they don't forget. I don't give a shit what Wikipedia says! Anyway, if you don't already, give your cat a head bump. Dip your head though! Oh also I forgot to say, there's many horrors committed to adults and children in life and guaranteed we all think the same about that, but the sentences for animal cruelty in this country are a joke , IF they ever get prosecuted. I could say you'd have to be f--//- up to beat a cat senseless time and again with stuff like a newspaper or worse as described above (runs at sound of paper especially newspaper and a hundred other things) but then if I said that I'm not sure they are f----- up people. No they're just pathetic cowards hitting something that can't fight back much and can't speak English to register complaint. Makes my blood pressure go up. Anyway rant over. I'll post a pic of this restored beast. The most timid soppy "had a hard life" but just glad to not be shouted at ... type of cat. Double edit yeah here's the fella name is Perry but adopted by my parents in Brum! Also sorry it seems sometimes uploading images rotates my images randomly! But they always appear the right way up when I post ! Anyway... this is what an abused to hell , but happy-now cat looks like ! Edited May 21, 2017 by Midfielder 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Villaninireland Posted May 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2017 Mrs Miggins is still going strong, tottering about the garden now. First time she has ventured out since January 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rjw63 Posted May 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2017 I'd like to meet the word removed that did the cat beating. Anyway, here's our Freddie, sunbathing before the grass gets cut. They love the long grass. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paddywhack Posted May 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) I'm loving this kitty thread. My mom rang me yesterday to ask if I was busy and to see if she could come round with my dad for a cup of tea. They only live a 5 minute walk away and when they arrived their cat Jinx (my cat from when I lived at home) had followed them. He came in but was a little nervy as he must have smelt my cat Wotsit who was out chasing rats. I've been wanting them to meet for ages and become best buds. I doubt they have because neither of them venture very far...and they'd probably rip each others eyes out. But yeah, it was a little surreal seeing him in my house, here he is in my living room. Here's Wotsit last week. He used to greet me at the door every day, he's taken it a step further. Edited May 22, 2017 by Paddywhack 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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