Tomaszk Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 55 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Recency bias as always. In five years people will be arguing if Mbappe or Haaland is the best ever and in 10-15 years some others will be the best ever. The current top player is always the best ever, since no-one really cares about grainy old footage anyway. Either of those two has got a long way to go to touch Messi. Neither is anywhere near the all round technical player Messi was and is. Only player up with Messi IMO is Brazilian Ronaldo. The oft mentioned others played a different sport. Pitches, rules, all different. To be appreciated in their own magnificent way. R9 pretty much bridged the gap of old football to the game we watch now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Either of those two has got a long way to go to touch Messi. Neither is anywhere near the all round technical player Messi was and is. Only player up with Messi IMO is Brazilian Ronaldo. The oft mentioned others played a different sport. Pitches, rules, all different. To be appreciated in their own magnificent way. R9 pretty much bridged the gap of old football to the game we watch now. Absolutely agree on R9, my favourite player ever. But I believe players fade from the collective memory as soon as they stop playing. In 10 years there will be new best ones ever, people just want to live in a unique era so the current top names automatically become legends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Ronaldo is actually finished! Sad to see a former great perform like this Edited December 2, 2022 by messi11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Threw a strop at getting substituted again. The man is in such denial about his decline, it's actually bordering on a delusion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I've been a big fan of Ronaldo through the years. The guy has lived and breathed football all his life, being arguably the best in the world. He is now getting slagged because he still wants to play every game and strops if taken off. Give it a break please, the man don't wanna see the end like many in other sports, were people slagging Federer. I mean what do people want him to do, give it up and become a pundit?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I've been a big fan of Ronaldo through the years. The guy has lived and breathed football all his life, being arguably the best in the world. He is now getting slagged because he still wants to play every game and strops if taken off. Give it a break please, the man don't wanna see the end like many in other sports, were people slagging Federer. I mean what do people want him to do, give it up and become a pundit?? Not be a stroppy, whiny little bitch when getting substituted or doing snide interviews to get his way? Horrible human being. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Fantastic bit of photoshop there Marca. Anyway, €200m a year to play in Saudi Arabia for 2.5 years. Greed is a strange thing. Quote Cristiano Ronaldo will play for Al-Nassr from January 1, 2023 The contract that links the Portuguese footballer with the Saudi Arabian team will run for two and a half seasons The contract, in addition to the hefty signing-on fee (just under 100 million euros) is accompanied by financial incentives via advertising, which will make the Portuguese the highest-paid sportsman in the world. The total worth of CR7's contract with Al-Nassr will be close to 200 million euros per season. https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/12/05/638ddff822601dd0348b45a5.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Age is kinder to him because he isn't relient on pace and power to run games. Always had a much bigger tool kit than Ronaldo ever had so none of this surprises me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 49 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I've been a big fan of Ronaldo through the years. The guy has lived and breathed football all his life, being arguably the best in the world. He is now getting slagged because he still wants to play every game and strops if taken off. Give it a break please, the man don't wanna see the end like many in other sports, were people slagging Federer. I mean what do people want him to do, give it up and become a pundit?? Federer was playing an individual sport, though, it was all about him by definition. Ronaldo has never been a team player… he sees his teammates as his assistants in his quest to win trophies, score goals, win Ballons d’Ors etc but it’s been clear for a long time that when the team is doing well and he isn’t getting the credit he feels resentful. People say it’s just his winning mentality and singular focus on being the best, but lots of other all time greats *weren’t* like that. He’s embarrassing himself a bit. Still an incredible footballer, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: I've been a big fan of Ronaldo through the years. The guy has lived and breathed football all his life, being arguably the second best in the world. He is now getting slagged because he still wants to play every game and strops if taken off. Give it a break please, the man don't wanna see the end like many in other sports, were people slagging Federer. I mean what do people want him to do, give it up and become a pundit?? Fixed for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2022 If a player got 70 goal contributions (Goals or Assists) a season for 16 straight seasons they'd have 1,120 goal contributions. Messi has 1,135 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Embarrassing by Ronaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I think at this stage it seems the guy is in desperate need of help, problem is he seems to think he is on another level that I think he wouldnt listen to an ex team mate or manager who would tell him to speak to somebody. Ferguson is probably the only person he might listen to Its like a fading Hollywood sex symbol on the last years of looking youthful but desperately trying to stay in the limelight or fight nature 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 42 minutes ago, Zatman said: I think at this stage it seems the guy is in desperate need of help, problem is he seems to think he is on another level that I think he wouldnt listen to an ex team mate or manager who would tell him to speak to somebody. Ferguson is probably the only person he might listen to Its like a fading Hollywood sex symbol on the last years of looking youthful but desperately trying to stay in the limelight or fight nature Tbf if he does go to Saudi Arabia it is an admission he is past it at the top level and is just collecting a last paycheck and getting his goal tally up as high as possible which is easier in a poor league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Sad to see Ronaldo on the bench. He don't help himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, messi11 said: Sad to see Ronaldo on the bench. He don't help himself. I think you mean glorious to see the petulant man-child on the bench. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, messi11 said: Sad to see Ronaldo on the bench. Yep .... left back in the dressing room perhaps? Spoiler The oldies are the best ... and that's the joke and not Ronaldo, but he's become one too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted December 6, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, messi11 said: Sad to see Ronaldo on the bench. He don't help himself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 6, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2022 He’s a **** word removed. And looks like the people who are yet to realise it are getting fewer and fewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 6, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2022 Surprise surprise Portugal are putting in their best performance of the tournament without him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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