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http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/nov/29/russell-brand-rages-sun-rupert-Murdoch

 

Whatever you think of Russel Brand, he nails it in this excellent article on Murdoch and The Sun. Cheered me up.

 

He does nail it.

 

But.

 

He's expecting a nation of largely un-wronged people to follow a cause that he only joined after being on the receiving end of The Sun's lies. As well written as it is, it kind of reads like retribution from a man who has been stung from the tabloids.

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Regardless of his motivation, if he's right and what he's saying is worth saying then fair play.  Maybe it takes being wronged to provoke an attack on something that has, let's face it, been worth attacking for a long time now.

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Aren't there editorial laws to keep people like Murdoch from lying out of their arse anyway?

 

(in theory)

 

Edit: A quick wiki search reveals that there are, indeed, such laws. Not sure how effective they are.

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For starters:

The presumption of defamation

The requirement that the defendant prove the truth of the statement as opposed to requiring the plaintiff to prove it to be false

The absence of a requirement that it be proven that the defendant knew it to be false

The absence of a requirement that it be proven that the defendant published with intent to defame

The absence of something like Section 230 of the CDA

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We know all this already, Mr Brand.

 

Do something about it, and maybe then we'll take you seriously.

 

What do you suggest (other than suing them, which he is already)?

 

 

 

Perhaps going on Strictly and expressing his anger towards the establishment through interpretative dance would be marginally more useful than spouting populist guff in a paper with better thinkers and writers who said it all already.

 

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For starters:

The presumption of defamation

The requirement that the defendant prove the truth of the statement as opposed to requiring the plaintiff to prove it to be false

The absence of a requirement that it be proven that the defendant knew it to be false

The absence of a requirement that it be proven that the defendant published with intent to defame

The absence of something like Section 230 of the CDA

 

The article isn't really about the defamation case at all, though. It's more about Newscorp, its vacuous celeb-centric news stories and its complicity with big capital.

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Perhaps going on Strictly and expressing his anger towards the establishment through interpretative dance would be marginally more useful than spouting populist guff in a paper with better thinkers and writers who said it all already.

 

 

Calling it "populist guff" is a bit strange, I thought it was 100% true, and can't be said often enough. Brand actually seems to write pretty well anyway, so I don't think there's any need to worry about it having been said before. If anything, a sleb like RB will get more attention than some of the better thinkers and writers, especially if he writes as well as this.

 

Still, getting the opportunity to observe RB getting his point across "through the medium of dance" is not to be sniffed at :)

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The Russell Brand article was great and the Sun have replied with 20 reasons that he is a hypocrite which would be interesting to read.  No way am I signing up to Sun+.  Not out of principal but everyone that signs up gets a free retro premier league club shirt.  Villa not included.

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