Mantis Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I'm holding out for Klinsmann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I wondered if any other club has appointed a manager who might well upset ~ annoy ~ severely p. Off three members of your strongest starting eleven. Doesn't exactly sound like either a safe or indeed correct appointment to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I'm holding out for Klinsmann. snigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuintonK6 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Do you think the bookies will pay out If we appoint a DOF ? On Kevin McDonald if he's first team coach 5. In the event that Aston Villa FC change the structure of their management team and do not call the appointed individual first team manager, Betfair will settle the market on the individual who is responsible for picking the first team. In the event of any ambiguity over the appointment, Betfair may determine using its reasonable discretion how to settle the market based on all the information available to it at the relevant time. I should imagine that might get quite interesting if anyone on betfair stands to lose out big time due to Betfair's 'reasonable discretion'. Mark Davies always used to try and claim that they were nothing more than the vehicle. I emailed Ladbrokes after my 1st post as I've a few quid on with them and this is what I got back in return. Ladbrokes state ; Winnings bets will be paid on the basis AVFC appoint a full time manager. If a DOF is announced and a coach appointed to handle squad selection and 1st team affairs and NO one person is know by the title AVFC 1st team manager all bets will remain valid until a 1st team manager is announced. To me that's confussing because if we appoint a DOF and I've got £50 on say Moyes my bet will remain valid as we haven't got a manager. Does this mean that If we got Moyes in 2 years and during that 2 years my bet remained valid will they pay me out ?? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I thought Friedel couldn't get a work permit to play at Liverpool, or was that Newcastle... Warnock wasn't deemed good enough, but I would be disappointed in the players if they behaved like this. Water under the bridge and all that. Both players are better than they were when managed by Houllier anyways. Probably just fabrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Most of the player have already siad they want MacDonald as manager, so any manager might have a bit of resentment towards them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJ Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I emailed Ladbrokes after my 1st post as I've a few quid on with them and this is what I got back in return. Ladbrokes state ; Winnings bets will be paid on the basis AVFC appoint a full time manager. If a DOF is announced and a coach appointed to handle squad selection and 1st team affairs and NO one person is know by the title AVFC 1st team manager all bets will remain valid until a 1st team manager is announced. To me that's confussing because if we appoint a DOF and I've got £50 on say Moyes my bet will remain valid as we haven't got a manager. Does this mean that If we got Moyes in 2 years and during that 2 years my bet remained valid will they pay me out ?? :confused: Yes exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steaknchips Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I would chance Klinsmann too...He has good connections and I think is somone that would work very well alongside KMac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Most of the player have already siad they want MacDonald as manager, so any manager might have a bit of resentment towards them. I really, really doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I emailed Ladbrokes after my 1st post as I've a few quid on with them and this is what I got back in return. Ladbrokes state ; Winnings bets will be paid on the basis AVFC appoint a full time manager. If a DOF is announced and a coach appointed to handle squad selection and 1st team affairs and NO one person is know by the title AVFC 1st team manager all bets will remain valid until a 1st team manager is announced. To me that's confussing because if we appoint a DOF and I've got £50 on say Moyes my bet will remain valid as we haven't got a manager. Does this mean that If we got Moyes in 2 years and during that 2 years my bet remained valid will they pay me out ?? :confused:Yes exactlyIt means they can keep your money in their account ticking over making interest until such a time a manager is appointed who will probably not be one of those shortlisted at this time and basically laugh all the way to their bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I would chance Klinsmann too...He has good connections and I think is somone that would work very well alongside KMac.Apparently Randy wanted him originally, he's currently out of work, he's not a "media name" and he is overall a good manager (at least in my opinion). I dunno though, I'm starting to feel like Houllier is inevitable simply because that's all the media have been talking about. Of course, just because the media wont stop blabbing on about Houllier doesn't mean we'll get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 4, 2010 Moderator Share Posted September 4, 2010 I thought Friedel couldn't get a work permit to play at Liverpool, or was that Newcastle... Warnock wasn't deemed good enough, but I would be disappointed in the players if they behaved like this. Water under the bridge and all that. Both players are better than they were when managed by Houllier anyways. Probably just fabrication. Friedel got a work permit before Houllier arrived at Anfield (he only got it on appeal though - took a couple of months iirc). When Houllier arrived he bought in Sander Westerveld to be number one keeper (who was rather shite) then let Friedel go on a free transfer (shows how little he thought of him) and replaced him with Peggy Arphexhad (who was even worse than Westerveld). He basically let the best keeper on his books go on a free because he didn't rate him, bought an inferior keeper to be number one and an awful keeper to be back up. Huge cock up on the keeping front I'd say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJ83 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 2nd."They do exactly what it says on the tin"; These managers are the average managers that do the expected...ie Martin O'Neill. I don't know how you came to that conclusion and I will have to disagree. We have over performed if anything especially last season when we got into the cup final. we haven't had any amazing player but more like a small squad of players that have played as a unit and pulled off some great results. Likewise, Moyes has done a very similar job at Everton. A small squad but one which has again, pulled off some great results. Just my opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I emailed Ladbrokes after my 1st post as I've a few quid on with them and this is what I got back in return. Ladbrokes state ; Winnings bets will be paid on the basis AVFC appoint a full time manager. If a DOF is announced and a coach appointed to handle squad selection and 1st team affairs and NO one person is know by the title AVFC 1st team manager all bets will remain valid until a 1st team manager is announced. To me that's confussing because if we appoint a DOF and I've got £50 on say Moyes my bet will remain valid as we haven't got a manager. Does this mean that If we got Moyes in 2 years and during that 2 years my bet remained valid will they pay me out ?? :confused: As long as Moyes were the next 'permanent manager', yes. Interesting, as I wouldn't be surprised if most bookies voided the bets (though Power might well pay out on either a DOF or head coach depending upon which was better (value) publicity). Don't lose/tear up your slip. :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granville Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Huge cock up on the keeping front I'd say A 'keeping cock up of Wengeresque proportions. After being reminded about his bizarre underrating of Friedel, JC and Warnock I've been swayed into the don't want camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packoman Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 This is what Betfair are doing: In the event that Aston Villa FC change the structure of their management team and do not call the appointed individual first team manager, Betfair will settle the market on the individual who is responsible for picking the first team. In the event of any ambiguity over the appointment, Betfair may determine using its reasonable discretion how to settle the market based on all the information available to it at the relevant time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 The Bookmakers must be making an absolute killing on this one ever since MON walked. There must be loads of mug punters out there who lumped on huge wedges on Moyes, Hughes, Klinsmann, Hitzfeld, et al Anybody crying in their beer yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 ^ If it's someone like Klinsmann or Hitzfeld who have had consistently far-out odds I think they might lose a fiar bit of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 If they had far out odds then there would be little money on them so the bookies would be laughing louder than a loud thing. Bookies don't lose money on these markets, they limited exposures and close the books as soon as they are reached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasley14 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Warnock was signed by Houiller as a kid i think, it was Benitez that let him go, so i dont think he will have any feelings towards him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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