calcifer Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 5 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Standard body of an alcoholic that. Need to know what he drinks I dont have a 6 pack I have a 1 pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted April 1 VT Supporter Share Posted April 1 18 minutes ago, imavillan said: absolutely this you don't do your dirty washing in public it's borderline showboating and it reminds me of when Phil Brown kept the Hull players out on the pitch for the half time talk. some things you just don't do and this is one of them. I would be mortified if Unai did something like this (i doubt he ever would as he's got far too much class to sink to that level) Actually didn't he down something similar to Digne a few weeks back? Although context seems to be different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 6 minutes ago, HongKongVillan said: Actually didn't he down something similar to Digne a few weeks back? Although context seems to be different? there's a huge difference of Emery talking to Digne on the bench to what Pep did.....nowhere remotely comparable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 7 hours ago, foreveryoung said: I cannot believe the disrespect Pep gets. He's not my favorite person at all, but what he's done in his career is outragous. Giving a player or 2 a bollocking on camera only tells me the seriously high levels you need to be at to play for Pep. I know alot of you would wanna see some love and hugs. But this is the way of the world to get to the top of your game. Grealish didn't look to bad, but I'm sure he now knows what sort of level is expected of him to play for one of the best managers in the world, if not of all time. It tells me that he’s a . It could have been done in the changing room, but he did it on the pitch because it all about him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 1 hour ago, imavillan said: absolutely this you don't do your dirty washing in public it's borderline showboating and it reminds me of when Phil Brown kept the Hull players out on the pitch for the half time talk. some things you just don't do and this is one of them. I would be mortified if Unai did something like this (i doubt he ever would as he's got far too much class to sink to that level) Yep. Guardiola is a prick, however he, bizarrely, still has a fair few VT fan boys fawning over him. Guardiola, along with his awful, cheating b******* club, deserve no praise or adulation from anyone. None whatsoever. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 1 VT Supporter Share Posted April 1 8 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: Yep. Guardiola is a prick, however he, bizarrely, still has a fair few VT fan boys fawning over him. Plenty on here still like Sherwood. People are insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 6 minutes ago, sidcow said: Plenty on here still like Sherwood. People are insane. I don't remember Sherwood being a drug cheat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 14 minutes ago, Zatman said: I don't remember Sherwood being a drug cheat Might have helped tbf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) 23 minutes ago, sidcow said: Plenty on here still like Sherwood. People are insane. I am people.... I loved him. Edited April 1 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 1 VT Supporter Share Posted April 1 11 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I am people.... I loved him. Like I said..... Insane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 2 hours ago, calcifer said: Need to know what he drinks I dont have a 6 pack I have a 1 pack. 1 pack is better than my cask! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) 4 hours ago, imavillan said: absolutely this you don't do your dirty washing in public it's borderline showboating and it reminds me of when Phil Brown kept the Hull players out on the pitch for the half time talk. some things you just don't do and this is one of them. I would be mortified if Unai did something like this (i doubt he ever would as he's got far too much class to sink to that level) Imagine being at work and your boss started berating you in the middle of an open plan office rather than behind a closed door .and then even worse doing it in the middle of a conference with all your colleagues and and industry figures . Thats what Pep did to Grealish Killed his swagger and confidence over the last 3 years. Edited April 1 by MWARLEY2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted April 1 VT Supporter Share Posted April 1 5 hours ago, Xela said: 1 pack is better than my cask! I have a vat! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) 13 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said: Imagine being at work and your boss started berating you in the middle of an open plan office rather than behind a closed door .and then even worse doing it in the middle of a conference with all your colleagues and and industry figures . Thats what Pep did to Grealish Killed his swagger and confidence over the last 3 years. People keep wrapping Jack in some sort of specialty cloak. If this is what " Pep does "... Why hasn't he done it to all the other players in the team who have played parts in them winning multiple competitions and trophies? Several of them getting even better while being there? Why can't some people just accept that maybe he either just doesn't suit that team/style of play, or isn't the Midlands Messi many have made him out to be? What if the character issues he had here, which were swept under the carpet because he could do no wrong, have been checked somewhere else where he isn't the big fish and is held accountable? What's more realistic? That Pep is a coach who ruins players... Or the alternative? Go back in history and I've always been pretty consistent with my views... I legitimately would rather a Foden over Grealish, if there are no Claret and Blue specs involved. He's a good - very good/upper echolon player, surrounded by very good/upper echelon to World Class players. He has never been a " 100 million " pound player... Edited April 2 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 He was worth more than that to us... For city based on his ability to kick a ball he's not even been worth half his price tag, off the pitch who knows, hard to tell how all that works, it's interesting that their marketing department made pissed up Grealish the face of their treble win, they'll also have had a field day with him shaking hands with the little girl (super cup??) but it's a bit depressing that they're his 2 highlights from his man city career, still maintain that man city have world class but ultimately boring players, de Bruyne being the prime example, best player in the league but he's not the face of anything, kids around the country aren't wearing their socks or their hair like KDB, he's not a poster boy that city needed but they now arguably have a bigger global one in Haaland Also on foden, probably more due to the rotation at city and how Southgate plays him for England but if I'm using the benchmark of Gerrard Lampard and Scholes and thinking that 2/3 years ago he would get there I'm now leaning towards him being slightly overrated, I don't think he's a key player for city or England or that he will get the same level as those 3, also think he's not going to be helped by Bellingham who will be better than those 3, foden again isn't as exciting as he once, not saying he's dele but he's a great 8/10 player, he's not world class or any of that nonsense that he's made out to be, I'd take Bernardo Silva over him any day of the week, he's quietly a massive player for city that foden and definitley not Grealish have got anywhere near Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post useless Posted April 2 Popular Post Share Posted April 2 People on here don't want to believe it but he was worth the money City paid for him because he played a massive role in them winning the treble last season, without him they may not have even achieved that, go back to City fans opinion around that time and all of them had him down as one of their most important players, and it's why he was playing in all their games in the title run in last season, when the title was won he was rested for the Champions League, he played in all their Champions League games, if City somehow had the chance to go back and not sign him, there's no way they would take that option, would be too risky, as could cost them what they achieved last season There's a lot of bitterness on here either because he left us, because he turned down Ireland, and there are a few who were weirdly against him even when he played for us, but will bizarrely stick up for players who were nowhere near as good, so obviously just have an agenda, and even though he was clearly the best player we've had in years and years, and truth be told the main reason we were promoted, stayed in the Premier League initially, and then established ourselves in the top flight, the £100m we got for him has also played it's part in our current success I haven't really been following what's happened with him this season, I think initially he had a few injuries, but seems he hasn't been as good or has fallen out of favor, that doesn't take away how good he was for us, good as in most had him down as one of our best of all time, or how good he was for Man City last season 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Not many players are worth £100 mill. But for us he was priceless. How we struggled without him, despite bringing in 3 players to replace him showed that. Our whole game plan was based around him. We indulged him and we filled him with so much confidence that he could do some amazing things in that team. A truly wonderful player. But when we talk about buying him back thats when i think we have gone crazy. 29 in September , all of his bravery being coached out of him . A treble on his mantelpiece means his hunger might not be what it was. 3 seasons of playing strictly on the left wing not allowed to do anything off the cuff . Spending the majority of this seasons important games on the bench . All the signs of a player that has reached his peak and is now on a downturn. We now have a team that is team first, player second. I wouldnt want to ruin that memory of how good he was , with the likelihood of him never getting close to the influence he had on us the first time. Especially at the prices and wages that it would cost. He broke my heart the first time . I dont want him to break my heart a second time but this time for different reasons. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I find it remarkable that there hasn't been more scrutiny about the fee. He remains the most expensive British player of all time (= with Rice?) and that sort of thing used to bring massive attention. Perhaps it's a reflection of how insane transfer fees have become or that it is just pocket change to Citeh that it is barely even mentioned? Sometimes it feels like the media doesn't consider the fee a relevant issue or one that should be considered alongside his performances. Is it tacit acknowledgement that he wasn't worth it or that somehow when the fee was going to little ole' AVFC that it doesn't matter? I remember conversations in his first season there about his price tag, but it suddenly disappeared when he seemed to click into gear there. Now he's clearly on the downturn with Citeh, the small issue of the price is invisible. If you put the money back into the equation, you have to ask yourself: does he look like a £100m player? Does he exert the sort of influence that £100m should buy for any club? Does he get the media attention that comes to a £100m talisman? The answer to all three is no. And I think Jack knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 15 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: But when we talk about buying him back thats when i think we have gone crazy. 29 in September , all of his bravery being coached out of him . A treble on his mantelpiece means his hunger might not be what it was. 3 seasons of playing strictly on the left wing not allowed to do anything off the cuff . Spending the majority of this seasons important games on the bench . All the signs of a player that has reached his peak and is now on a downturn. Wearing my Claret and Blue tinted glasses, if we could get the old Grealish, on that left hand side attracting 2/3 players. That would open so much space up for Diaby / Bailey on the other side. Unfortunately that guy is gone. Regardless, he's on 300k a week, only those with over inflated commercial income can sustain that type of wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pas5898 Posted April 2 Popular Post Share Posted April 2 1 minute ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: I find it remarkable that there hasn't been more scrutiny about the fee. He remains the most expensive British player of all time (= with Rice?) and that sort of thing used to bring massive attention. Perhaps it's a reflection of how insane transfer fees have become or that it is just pocket change to Citeh that it is barely even mentioned? Because football people understand Man City are a sports washing organisation and why he was purchased (it wasn't footballing ability). Grealish was purchased for marketing purposes, who happens to be good enough to play in the Man City squad. At the time he was the happy go lucky, Jack the lad, Gazza-esque England star boy. He was purchased to make Man City "likeable" and increase their presence to the masses / less knowledgeable football fans. My step daughter who doesn't really like football, loves Grealish. She had a Grealish Villa kit, the second he left she wanted a Grealish Man City kit. A normal parent would just buy her it. I'm not normal, so told her if she buys one she can live with her dad. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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