villan95 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) I think he had actually really improved on his output under Smith. His 2 seasons back in the PL with us saw him get 14 goals and 18 assists in 62 matches. But Villa and Grealish were set up to get the best out of each other. He was the main man. At City he's a cog in a functional machine and there's no doubt it's completely stifled his natural game. He will retire a wealthy man with lots of trophies but so much wasted individual ability. Edited December 3, 2023 by villan95 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted December 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 3, 2023 I hope he plays Wednesday 4 sides of the ground singing Villa till I die is always fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Would you take him back? I’m not even sure that I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Villatillidie95 said: That souness article was scathing True, but an honest assessment. Souness has never been his biggest fan though, even when he was at Villa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo's Socks Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, Lord Willard said: Would you take him back? I’m not even sure that I would. Not sure he'd suit our style at the moment, from what I've seen it's all playing down the line, stop, play a square ball. Rinse, repeat. Shame really, the way he used to link up with Taylor and later on Targett, makes me think him and Moreno could wreak havoc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 3, 2023 Jack Grealish... He's just somebody that we used to know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 11 hours ago, Villatillidie95 said: That souness article was scathing….I think the problem with grealish over there is that in adapting he moved away from the player they signed….but to get into the team he needed to change so it’s a strange situation. He’s always had quite low numbers with regards to goals and assists compared to many of Man City’s other players in similar positions such as mahrez , KDB, Foden, it’s one thing he never really improved on and even in the championship for us he only really scored the odd goal. And it’s a fair criticism. Grealish has said multiple times at City that he wanted to improve it. You can see why Doku starts ahead him now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, The_Steve said: And it’s a fair criticism. Grealish has said multiple times at City that he wanted to improve it. You can see why Doku starts ahead him now. My only problem with it is that it's souness, he made the exact same criticism when Grealish was at Villa and it was bollocks, he was taking touches and holding on to the ball due to lack of options and movement around him, now at city he's got possibly the best player the world at being available for a 5 yard pass in the attacking 3rd (silva) the excuse has gone It would be interesting to see proper in depth analysis and comparison between him at Villa and him at city, you're not getting that from souness, I can't take him seriously, he's a bitter angry old man who doesn't like him probably because of his hair or his shin pads 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, villa4europe said: My only problem with it is that it's souness, he made the exact same criticism when Grealish was at Villa and it was bollocks, he was taking touches and holding on to the ball due to lack of options and movement around him, now at city he's got possibly the best player the world at being available for a 5 yard pass in the attacking 3rd (silva) the excuse has gone It would be interesting to see proper in depth analysis and comparison between him at Villa and him at city, you're not getting that from souness, I can't take him seriously, he's a bitter angry old man who doesn't like him probably because of his hair or his shin pads Yeah I agree. Souness is arguing in bad faith, but I am sure the general critique about goals would stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Even grealish at his best, 18 goals and 14 assists in 62 matches, for any attacker in a Man City team that would be piss poor numbers for one season tbh….mahrez regularly did that and was a fraction of the price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Villatillidie95 said: Even grealish at his best, 18 goals and 14 assists in 62 matches, for any attacker in a Man City team that would be piss poor numbers for one season tbh….mahrez regularly did that and was a fraction of the price! They were his Villa numbers not his City numbers but the stats are reversed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: They were his Villa numbers not his City numbers but the stats are reversed Yeah just saying what was deemed fantastic in a villa shirt at the time would have been seen at city as something that needs to be standard, and over one season not 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Jack moonlighting as tea lady assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Wonder what kind of reception he is gonna get Wednesday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Wonder what kind of reception he is gonna get Wednesday night If this thread (over the last few months) is anything to go by then he has nothing to worry about. Edited December 3, 2023 by AvfcRigo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 50 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Wonder what kind of reception he is gonna get Wednesday night Sure he be fine at the bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 The Barry hate went down over time but Barry didn't have his asshole dad convinced we were a stepping stone but milking the attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 The Barry hate died down because he wasn't hated in the first place, and also because people were less butt hurt about him leaving, he had nowhere near the hero status that Grealish had, not even close, not long before it became apparent Grealish was leaving there were common debates on here as to whether he was our best ever player or not, and no one was saying that that was a ridiculous notion, in fact many were hailing him as our greatest ever. As well as hating Grealish for leaving us, there's another band of people who are jealous of him because of his good looks and fashionable hairstyle, and that he has an air of confidence about him, and a certain type of person takes that as arrogance, and yet another band who are still crying because he switched from Ireland to play for England, something he was always going to do anyway, as was openly supporting England whilst still playing for Ireland, the only reason he played for Ireland to begin with is because at the time England didn't have a U15 team, he was called up to England U16 squad but got injured so couldn't go, Callum Robinson was in that England squad but eventually switched Ireland, so it goes both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) Greasy misses game against us what a idiot. Silly yellow Edited December 3, 2023 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just picked up a yellow so won’t play against us either - reckon he got it on purpose as wouldn’t like the reception he’s likely to get from the crowd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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