Hank Scorpio Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, tinker said: Got a feeling We ain't seen the last of Jack in a villa shirt. He's never coming back 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted January 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 hours ago, meregreen said: Sorry, that accolade belongs to Paul McGrath.Closely followed by Brian Little. European cup winner Gary Shaw also says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pissflaps said: He's never coming back I think so too. Said before I dont think Gerrard would take him. Not for personality but now our players like quick one twos and Jack doesn't fit that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 hours ago, meregreen said: Sorry, that accolade belongs to Paul McGrath.Closely followed by Brian Little. Said before you have to consider the changes in availability of football and the ease at how it can be watched, there's a whole generation of villa fans who never saw those players and a lot more who if they were lucky enough to see them only saw them a handful of times, compare that to having probably 90% of Jack's games available via different sources I'm 37, I saw Mcgrath less than 5 times on TV, watched him more for Ireland, even players like Yorke or or Mellberg or Ashley Young I couldn't watch every game, grealish apart from some random cup and championship games I could and I usually did Comfortably the best player I've ever seen in c&b, honestly it's not even close I'd be genuinely interested how many time Brian Little played for villa on TV because I haven't got a clue what it was like back then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post regular_john Posted January 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, tinker said: Got a feeling We ain't seen the last of Jack in a villa shirt. That's very much the impression I get. He clearly loves The Villa and, had we been able to offer European football etc. probably would have spent his career here. I get the impression he's gone off to tick his career boxes by winning the league, cups, playing in CL etc. before coming home for the last few years of his career. I don't wish him any ill. He was great for us and I hope he continues to have an excellent career. Just like Deano, he's one of our own. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted January 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Zatman said: I think so too. Said before I dont think Gerrard would take him. Not for personality but now our players like quick one twos and Jack doesn't fit that He has 7 years plus playing career, Gerrard will be gone in 3 seasons , he either gets us into Europe and then goes to lpool or doesn't and gets sacked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 It’s a time timing issue (as ever). He’s still ahead of us now. By the time he thinks we’re a good fit for him, he’s probably not what we’re looking for. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, tinker said: He has 7 years plus playing career, Gerrard will be gone in 3 seasons , he either gets us into Europe and then goes to lpool or doesn't and gets sacked. Yes and our structure is to bring in a manager with a similar style. As for Grealish, with his injuries and lifestyle then he will be lucky to be playing top flight at 30. Look at Wilshere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted January 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2022 38 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Said before you have to consider the changes in availability of football and the ease at how it can be watched, there's a whole generation of villa fans who never saw those players and a lot more who if they were lucky enough to see them only saw them a handful of times, compare that to having probably 90% of Jack's games available via different sources I'm 37, I saw Mcgrath less than 5 times on TV, watched him more for Ireland, even players like Yorke or or Mellberg or Ashley Young I couldn't watch every game, grealish apart from some random cup and championship games I could and I usually did Comfortably the best player I've ever seen in c&b, honestly it's not even close I'd be genuinely interested how many time Brian Little played for villa on TV because I haven't got a clue what it was like back then Very few, probably the most notable one was the second reply in 1977 League cup when he scored a braceI think he scored 13 goals in that tournament that season including a hat-trick in the semi-final reply against QPR. Believe the hype he walked on water , It’s a tragedy that more of him is not on film 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted January 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2022 Just now, Follyfoot said: Very few, probably the most notable one was the second reply in 1977 League cup when he scored a braceI think he scored 13 goals in that tournament that season including a hat-trick in the semi-final reply against QPR. Believe the hype he walked on water , It’s a tragedy that more of him is not on film I think he’s goal Manchester United in the FA Cup from about 35 yards is also on YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, tinker said: Got a feeling We ain't seen the last of Jack in a villa shirt. There's always the 'legends' 5 a side I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I dont want grealish back. I rather see a team of talent working hard than one exceptional player on the side we heavily rely on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, regular_john said: I get the impression he's gone off to tick his career boxes by winning the league, cups, playing in CL etc. before coming home for the last few years of his career. Why the hell would we want him back then…knackered and past it. He’s not the type of player whose going to have a career at the top end long into his thirties given his injury history and off the field activities. Also given where we are going we should be a consistent top 8 team by then so we wouldn’t be interested in him. If he comes back as you say at the end of his career then NSWE has failed at this club over the coming years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: Comfortably the best player I've ever seen in c&b, honestly it's not even close Not hard considering how crap we’ve been for 20 years, it’s not exactly a good bench mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regular_john Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: Why the hell would we want him back then…knackered and past it. He’s not the type of player whose going to have a career at the top end long into his thirties given his injury history and off the field activities. Also given where we are going we should be a consistent top 8 team by then so we wouldn’t be interested in him. If he comes back as you say at the end of his career then NSWE has failed at this club over the coming years. We'll see. I've seen far too many false dawns down B6 to make any assumptions about where we may or may not be in X years time. Maybe we'll be in a good place and he'll be nothing more than a squad player. Maybe it will have all gone tits up (again) and he'll be hailed as a prodigal son returning to get us out of the shit (again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: I hope he continues to flop because that £100m is all the more sweeter if he does. I do genuinely wonder if he regrets it or not. Obviously, there is the money, but he’d be filthy rich either way. On form or not he will be getting a premier league winners medal come May, i very much doubt he regrets swapping that to staying with us. I really don't get the hate he gets on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: Said before you have to consider the changes in availability of football and the ease at how it can be watched, there's a whole generation of villa fans who never saw those players and a lot more who if they were lucky enough to see them only saw them a handful of times, compare that to having probably 90% of Jack's games available via different sources Problem is there are just as many generations that did see many of our greats week in and week out. I appreciate there is a generation that didn’t but that doesn’t take away from a large amount that did like myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, regular_john said: We'll see. I've seen far too many false dawns down B6 to make any assumptions about where we may or may not be in X years time. Maybe we'll be in a good place and he'll be nothing more than a squad player. Maybe it will have all gone tits up (again) and he'll be hailed as a prodigal son returning to get us out of the shit (again) Interesting to find out how many times going back to an old club works out. The likelihood if he came back the expectations would be high but it would never work out the same. He had his time here, it worked perfectly for that time but the likelihood it wouldn’t work out the same. We’ve had the likes of Cowans work out coming back but different circumstances and all that it’s not likely to work out. Added to that it would have to have perfect timing, in that we needed a player like him, he’s at the level or we are at the level it works and many other factors…I doubt he’ll ever come back and not anything that would have any material impact to the first team. The Jack we knew and loved has gone for good. The future Grealish, if he came back, would be a different type of player and most likely a shadow of what we knew. Edited January 23, 2022 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, nick76 said: Problem is there are just as many generations that did see many of our greats week in and week out. I appreciate there is a generation that didn’t but that doesn’t take away from a large amount that did like myself. We didn’t call McGrath God for nothing. Not just the best I ever saw in c&b, I think at the time he was probably the best defender in the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, nick76 said: Not hard considering how crap we’ve been for 20 years, it’s not exactly a good bench mark attacking wise Ashley Young 07-09 was much better for me. He was incredible at that time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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