ReasonforRevolution Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: He regrets it already. Doesn’t he? Yes! He's lost so much. I honestly see Villa like a family, and I'm just some nob head who goes home and away and chats nonsense. Love this club, don't understand how you could turn on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 The constant discussion around whether he was worth the money is getting boring. Different players are worth different amounts to different clubs. He was absolutely worth £100mil to us and the release clause was there so thats what Man City had to pay if they wanted him. Could they have gotten a better player for £80mil? £60mil? Possibly, but not clearly so. But Grealish has some off-field star power that may not have been available at that price. Could we have replaced Jack for £60mil? No way. £80mil? Maybe, but only on the field and spread over a few players, nowhere near off of it. We've given up the exposure and potential sponsorship value that comes with having a world famous player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Xela said: My final thoughts on the matter... that no one wanted or cares about I'm writing it down as a form of release more than anything. A cathartic rambling. Fair play if you get through it. Understand if you can't be bothered. Now the dust has settled, I've had a chance to reflect on what was a manic week, especially in this thread, and my final summing up of the situation and how I feel now about it. Obviously, I was absolutely gutted he left. A real hammer blow. Even until the last day, I thought he would stay and lead us into our new and exciting future. He was our captain. Brummie Jack, the boyhood fan and the face of the club. He was finally getting the international recognition he deserved. So to lose him, to Man City, really hurt. I'll admit, I did have a tear in my eye when I watched those videos put out by Villa and by Jack. The little kid in all the different Villa shirts, the scrawny teenager who made his debut, right up until the man he is now. An absolute wonderful footballer. A baller as the kids would say. Living the life we would all want. I genuinely thought he would be our Roy of the Rovers and be a Villa lifer. His desire and ambition to win honours and play Champions League football was too much of a calling and he couldn't wait for this to happen at Villa. Lets be honest, we might never get there. That isn't a dig at the owners or the management team, as they have been great, more of a comment on how difficult it is to crack the top 4 regularly and stay there. Grealish is 25, and hasn't played in Europe. His mates, like Chilwell, Mount, Shaw, Stones, etc have all done this and some have even won winners medals. Jack is more talented than those by far, so I can understand why he had his head turned, and ultimately why he left. He could have perhaps handled things a bit differently, with what he said last year, but i'm not going to wish him ill, or hope he gets injured, or boo him, or call him a snake, or claim he is overrated, because that just sounds a bit petty, but I know people have to come to terms with his departure in their own way. When it all settles down, I'm sure most of us will remember what he did on the pitch, in a Villa shirt. He was the best player i've ever seen in a Villa shirt and i've been a fan since the late 80's. He is a supreme footballer. He is on my Mount Rushmore of Villa players with Platt, McGrath and Yorke. He wasn't perfect as a person, who is? He's done a few questionable things in his personal life but none of us are saints and I did stupid things in my 20's as well. Its worth mentioning that he also did a huge amount for sick kids and fans at Villa. A lot of that goes unmentioned and is done away from the spotlight, but he's always been very good at this and dedicated a lot of time to it. He knew full well that young fans worshipped him. So to hear some fans say he isn't really a fan, doesn't really care or its all a PR act, kind of disappoints me, as its clearly untrue. He undoubtedly is a huge Villa fan, and always will be, regardless of who he plays for. I'm sure he will be a huge success at Man City and wins lots of honours. He could well go on to Beckham-esque levels of fame and success, and I wouldn't begrudge him that. I do know one thing for sure though - the City fans won't love him like we did here. They won't sing his name like the Holte End did. I guess that is the pay-off though. However, he's gone now and I genuinely think we'll be a better and more rounded team having invested the money wisely and over a few players. £100m. Say it out loud. It is an insane amount of money. Villa have handled the situation really well in my opinion and deserve a huge amount of credit in how the sale was done and how they reacted to it. That shows we have the right people running the club and a very bright future indeed. Thanks for the memories Jack, but you're a City player now and my loyalty lies solely with the boys in claret and blue. I'll always respect and remember your contribution to Villa though. UTV Perfectly put and an excellent summation of the situation that reflects my feelings on the matter as well. The only thing I'll add and what is the most disappointing thing for me, is that it's such an exciting time for the club, where we're on the up, and making all the right moves. It's just such a shame that this is the moment that Jack picks to leave. It's the whole "missed opportunity" idea that bugs me, and the idea of "what could have been" with Jack sticking around. Anyway, what's done is done, so it's up to the club now to show Jack what he's missed out on by not sticking with his boyhood club (and I still genuinely believe that Villa are his club, despite what other fans think) by continuing to build on last season and really gunning for those European spots. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReasonforRevolution Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: He regrets it already. Doesn’t he? Do you know what? I nearly died during the pandemic.. I went into a DKA. Embarrassing, but I'll speak about it. Turns out I've got Type 1 diabetes. When I was in A and E, I begged to be able to watch Villa against Sheff Utd. But I was half gone. Nearly dead. I've held a season ticket since 1992. The love and admiration is deep. We've all been through tough times, Jack had the opportunity to prove something. He didn't. He's just another isn't he?| Edited August 8, 2021 by ReasonforRevolution 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNVillan Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 1 hour ago, ReasonforRevolution said: Do you know the beauty of being a Villa fan? We always fight back. I believe Aston Villa is the best football club in the world. We've lost our captain and I've seen people today turn up in their thousands to get behind the team for a training session. Losing Jack was difficult, but chatting to people was cathartic. We're better than Man City. I'll never forgive Jack for that. "Villa have amazing support. If you hung 11 Villa shirts on a washing line five thousand fans would turn up to watch them!" Tommy Docherty Im ready to run through a brick ******* wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReasonforRevolution Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, MNVillan said: Im ready to run through a brick ******* wall I'll never accept Jack turning on this club. Aston Villa is the most beautiful club in the world. To wear the lion on your heart is worth more than 5 Champions League medals. Best club in the world. I cried today watching people turn up in their thousand. It was an act of solitude. We're a family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 6 hours ago, CarryOnVilla said: For some reason I’m feeling good that we sold him. he was meh after he came back from injury. He was meh for England and he was meh today. maybe we got the better end of this deal Well we now know that was probably partially because he wanted out and was off anyway. " A tough few months " hey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, ReasonforRevolution said: Yes! He's lost so much. I honestly see Villa like a family, and I'm just some nob head who goes home and away and chats nonsense. Love this club, don't understand how you could turn on it. Well he did say In his Man City interview that it feels like " a Family Club ". That annoyed me more than it probably should have, because I would have thought, we would feel like a family club more than City. I just wished he would have been more measured with some of his comments, both at the Euros, and in his first City interviews. Someone made a good point though, the kid loves football,.and is wide eyed , awestruck and excited, so probably not even thinking straight. I mean like a kid picturing his name in lights etc, scoring Champions League winners and the like. Got his number 10 as well. It's weird, I was probably raging more than most, but I've been flip flopping over the past couple days. Watched a couple of the City YouTube videos, of his first day etc, and it just feels/looks so weird. Just doesn't seem to fit. It's like, I know the kid, so want to be happy for him, but at the same time, I can't help but still feel betrayed. Anger has turned more to dissappointment, and I can't help but feel his advisers had a huge part to play in this. Also, the International football etc everyone on here were having meltdowns about him being a part of, were probably a heavy part of the nail in the coffin. Just like anyone else I sometimes think " Yeah, you want to go off and see new things, places and people, life is short ". However in truth, footballers are so rich, they can see any City they want, have any experience they want, at the highest levels in their off time, regardless of where they are based. I also partially feel sorry for him, do we remember his face when he was subbed off for 2 minutes?. We'll see how strong his character is, as it will be sink or swim at City, he can either lose confidence/self worth, or go up levels. I won't say he is " overrated ", but his game will need to come on leaps and bounds to be successfull there. Still hard for me to be " Happy " for him, but I wish him no I'll will. This is truly a new era for us. Sometimes you've got to " destroy " to rebuild. Here, Jack could do whatever he liked, and when you think about it, it probably wasn't good for us in the long run. Players will be on an equal footing, with no superiority/inferiority complex. Edited August 8, 2021 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReasonforRevolution Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) Jack was the last sacred blossom. He was me and you.. Leeds, West Ham, the lot. I'm a musician, this is Little Mix vs Velvet Underground. This transfer is the death of football. If it can happen to him, It'll happen to anyone. We're a bigger club than City. We're a bigger club than Chelsea Just a shame Jack didn't see that. I'd die for Villa. Shame Jack doesn't see Villa is worth more than anything. The admiration of AVFC is worth more than a trinket. Edited August 8, 2021 by ReasonforRevolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted August 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 hours ago, handsworthlion said: Aston Villa has been a part of my family since the clubs formation, my dad was born on health field road about 200 yards up from where the club played their first ever football match... If I had the fortune and ability to play for and captain ASTON VILLA... it would make my dad cry with pride.... that’s because we BLEED Claret & Blue. I am sure there are many others on here who could tell a similar story.... I wouldn’t trade that in that opportunity for anything... and if I did, my old man would probably diss-own me. I saw that video of Jack Signing for ‘them’.. and it honestly made my stomach turn.. all Of his family Had travelled up there with him.. lording it around that soulless Death Star of a facility. Proud as punch. And that is what leads me to believe that Jack, his dad, and the rest of his family were never like me And so many of us... but I honestly believed it. More fool me. For a minute there I read it as your dad was born and watched the first Villa match. I was thinking, how bloody old is this guy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Tbh he looked out of his depth. I think he’ll flop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Spoony said: Tbh he looked out of his depth. I think he’ll flop. He won’t. He’s a special talent. He’ll probably take a while to settle in tho as his playing minutes over the last 7 months have been limited. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was man of the match in no time. It’s going to help him that KDB is injured as he will get time to find his feet before being directly compared to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 3 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Here, Jack could do whatever he liked, and when you think about it, it probably wasn't good for us in the long run. Players will be on an equal footing, with no superiority/inferiority complex. Totally agree with this. I suspect a few of the players not in his little clique might agree too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I think it'll play out similarly to Griezmann at Barca. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mic09 Posted August 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2021 I'm loving this "he isn't THAT great"/"he will struggle" revisionism. Get a grip, he is a special talent and he will do very well, he is the natural de bruyne successor. I guess FIFA 2024 cover will go to Grealish, I expect him to do that well on both competition and marketing levels. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villan-scott Posted August 8, 2021 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) I’ve held off posting about Grealish to refrain from saying something I might regret. I’m a father to 2 boys. A 5 year old and one who’s nearly 2. The 5 year old had his love for football awoken during the Euros. My love and support for Grealish shone through, plus getting a bloody England shirt for the first time in about 20 years with his name on. All the Grealish chatter naturally meant that he became my sons favourite. He is/was my favourite too. What was there not to like? Villa lad, shining on one of the biggest stages. A huge clamour for him to get more minutes from the whole nation. I was convinced he’d stay. Absolutely convinced. We are on an upward trajectory. The ‘project’ and ambition is getting banded about by Jack, the manager, new signings and exiting players. We are on our way back. Who better to lead us than one of our own? How could he possibly not want to? As all this was playing out, I was still sure he’d stay! How could he not want to? The moment it only really hit home was when the notification popped up on my phone around the Purslow live address. This one really hurts. Not just for me, but for my son who had only just begun to love Aston Villa’s Jack Grealish. I think the hurt and betrayal comes down to knowing I was convinced he’d stay, but also because I know there won’t be another like him to come through. One of our own. Shot to super stardom, but now leaving us behind in the process. I only told my son about the move yesterday, I’d prepared him saying he might be leaving over the last week or so. He cried. He was gutted. The montage videos of Jack had made me well up, so I’m not surprised there was an outpouring from my 5 year old. We decided that we can still love Jack Grealish the player, but it just won’t be the same. We need to find a new hero in claret and blue too, but that just won’t feel the same either. I do wish him well and hope he gets to win all the things he wants to win. At the same time I hope it feels empty and is tinged with regret that maybe he should’ve stuck around to know what it really should have felt like for him winning with Villa. Goodbye to Aston Villa’s Jack Grealish. Edited August 8, 2021 by villan-scott 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I don’t think people are doubting Jack’s immense talents on the pitch, how could they? The issue is, trading it in to be played in a less favourable position and have those unique talents coached out of him. Sure, there are short term gains, but in the long run, it will be interesting to see if he truly thrives or just becomes another wonderful talent to sit on bench of a club that uses its immense wealth to bully others to prove that it can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I've mentioned it before, but after Man City came sniffing I'm not sure that keeping Jack would have been worth it financially. He's on £370,000 a week. If he'd accepted a mere £300k a week to stay here, his wages over the five years would have been £80m (£95m if we'd matched them). So by selling him the club is £180m better off. But more than that I think having one player on crazy wages is corrosive either to team morale or the club's wage structure, so it might even have saved us more than that. I definitely think there are a lot of silver linings here. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 He will flop. Was disastrous yesterday 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I’m a bit disappointed with the Leicester fans for not using a rendition of ‘empty seats m’lord’ seemed like it had to be sung yesterday, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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