Delphinho123 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Grealish is a million miles better than this team and needs to leave for a team that have more than 30% possession each match. He’s been largely poor since the return to action but he’s fighting a losing battle playing with some of these players. He’s gone at the end of the season. We just need to figure out what the hell we’re going to do without him because we have a squad full of players who I think will genuinely struggle to get anywhere near the playoffs in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, useless said: Put Grealsh in midfield and he might play well, but it would make the team a lot weaker than it already is, we can't afford to drop one of our midfielders for a playmaker, teams would walk through us even more. And it's since switching to the wing that Grealish's form has picked up and he's started scoring and assisting, when he was playing midfield earlier in the season people were questioning whether he was better than McGinn. MIght get away with playing him in midfield in the championship, but not the premier league, only way it might work is if we played a diamond system. Nah don't agree. He really puts a shift in in CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) He’s on 8 yellow cards now so two away from a two match ban. Any idea if there’s a deadline for that it is the end of the season? EDIT :: Apparently before the season was stopped the deadline for ten yellow card punishment was the “second Sunday in April” but no idea what that now means with the restart. Anyone know? Edited June 21, 2020 by roonst83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 6 hours ago, roonst83 said: He’s on 8 yellow cards now so two away from a two match ban. Any idea if there’s a deadline for that it is the end of the season? EDIT :: Apparently before the season was stopped the deadline for ten yellow card punishment was the “second Sunday in April” but no idea what that now means with the restart. Anyone know? The commentator did say yesterday what the cut off is but I can't remember exactly. 32 games rings a bell but I'm not sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 He won us countless free kicks in good positions throughout the game but we wasted most of them. We scored from one but who thought letting Tezeguet smash one goal ward from 35 yards in injury time was a good idea? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazmonkey Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Head is definitely else where. Before the lockdown he had a move and international place up for grabs. He's got one, the move, but obviously the England cant happen due to being moved but he will be looking at it, another year 'if' in the prem with this lot aint going to help him. As much has he is Villa through and through but once reality sets in, its hard to get out of it, he's carried the team too much and knows the writing is on the walls. Its a shame because we wont see another player like him for years and without him, we have no chance of coming straight back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted June 22, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2020 He was the best player on the pitch vs Sheff Utd and whilst he didn't have an end result against a far better Chelsea side, he was still our most dangerous player. He's not messi. He's not going to dribble round 10 people and score. I think people are frustrated that we're playing shit and taking it out on Jack. He's one of the only players in our team good enough for this league. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bazmonkey said: Its a shame because we wont see another player like him for years and without him, we have no chance of coming straight back up. Disagree. If we go down we'll come up at a canter this time. Far far better situation than last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazmonkey Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I admire your optimism Steveo, but with my coaching hat on and claret glasses off, i cant see it, too many holes to fill both on and off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bazmonkey said: I admire your optimism Steveo, but with my coaching hat on and claret glasses off, i cant see it, too many holes to fill both on and off the pitch. Our current team would be an excellent championship side. We’ll probably lose Grealish McGinn and Mings but I can’t see too many other players going. And we’ll have at least £100m from the sale of those 3 players to replace them (I’m not saying we’d have to use all of that money) We’d be in a far far better position than last time. Less of a rebuild needed, far better back room situation, more money, relaxed FFP. We’d storm the championship next season. Hopefully we won’t need to find out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Our current team would be an excellent championship side. We’ll probably lose Grealish McGinn and Mings but I can’t see too many other players going. And we’ll have at least £100m from the sale of those 3 players to replace them (I’m not saying we’d have to use all of that money) We’d be in a far far better position than last time. Less of a rebuild needed, far better back room situation, more money, relaxed FFP. We’d storm the championship next season. Hopefully we won’t need to find out if we believe the asking price is £80m and we won't sell Mings at a loss (regardless of fans turning on him he is now an England international defender ) then , we should pickup pick up £130m for Grealish (£80) , Mings (£30) and McGinn (£20) .. get what we can for El Ghazi (£6) , Trezeguet .. Plus parachute money , then already we are in a far better position than last time we got relegated The reason I think the club will stick with Smith is this focus on " younger" players and his ( alleged ) reputation as being good with them A championship squad with Konsa ,Luiz ,Davis ,Wesley , Vasilev .. all around 23 or under throw in Guilbert , Hause , Targett , Engels who are still under 25 then Heaton , Samatta , Hourihane as the older heads then , if we believe the noises from VP about the talent then we can promote , Ramsey x 2 ,Barry ,Chukwuemeka to the first team squad spend some money wisely (ha) and that squad should easily be good enough for the Championship 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 with his injury, lack of form pre injury and then not pulling up any trees post restart I don't see who is coming in for McGinn at £20m, same with mings, I think we can keep them there would obviously be some who make some noise about leaving, luiz, samatta etc but would you honestly say any one other than grealish has played well enough to get a move away? luiz for example we say we want to cover our purchase, has he done anything to suggest another PL or La Liga team would pay that for him? I don't see it I think we can maintain an element of control as to who leaves and we will be a good championship team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I think there would be teams willing to pay £20m for McGinn it's not much these days, and if he returns to form and there's nowt to say that he will not then he will be worth much more that. There's no way I'd sell him for that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: if we believe the asking price is £80m and we won't sell Mings at a loss (regardless of fans turning on him he is now an England international defender ) then , we should pickup pick up £130m for Grealish (£80) , Mings (£30) and McGinn (£20) .. get what we can for El Ghazi (£6) , Trezeguet .. Plus parachute money , then already we are in a far better position than last time we got relegated The reason I think the club will stick with Smith is this focus on " younger" players and his ( alleged ) reputation as being good with them A championship squad with Konsa ,Luiz ,Davis ,Wesley , Vasilev .. all around 23 or under throw in Guilbert , Hause , Targett , Engels who are still under 25 then Heaton , Samatta , Hourihane as the older heads then , if we believe the noises from VP about the talent then we can promote , Ramsey x 2 ,Barry ,Chukwuemeka to the first team squad spend some money wisely (ha) and that squad should easily be good enough for the Championship Yep. Although even though I don't rate El Ghazi and Trez, they're plenty good enough for the Championship. If we don't need to sell them and they'll stay then I'd keep them. The more continuity the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Grealish game yesterday 1)Run round chasing the Chelsea defenders back pass's to keeper 2)Cover the full back positions 3)Get fouled when trying to run with the ball , 9 fouls before Chelsea got a card for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2020 54 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Our current team would be an excellent championship side. We’ll probably lose Grealish McGinn and Mings but I can’t see too many other players going. And we’ll have at least £100m from the sale of those 3 players to replace them (I’m not saying we’d have to use all of that money) We’d be in a far far better position than last time. Less of a rebuild needed, far better back room situation, more money, relaxed FFP. We’d storm the championship next season. Hopefully we won’t need to find out Just like Stoke who went down with supposedly a squad who were going to storm it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, sidcow said: Just like Stoke who went down with supposedly a squad who were going to storm it? Look at ourselves , we spend millions in that league and took us 3 years and loaning a ton of players to get up Look how many teams have gone down in recent seasons and not gone back up its not that easy to replace a squad , perhaps a manager and turn around a losing team into one that starts winning straight away. Then what we get promoted and have to do another rebuild , plus another season of struggle to stay in league whilst other teams move further us. Relegation is a disaster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, sidcow said: Just like Stoke who went down with supposedly a squad who were going to storm it? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 27 minutes ago, Nabby said: Grealish game yesterday 1)Run round chasing the Chelsea defenders back pass's to keeper 2)Cover the full back positions 3)Get fouled when trying to run with the ball , 9 fouls before Chelsea got a card for it. Drop back into defence to show them and instruct them to pass the ball around and take their time. Completes 3 passes with them then watches Hause ping one 70 yards to Targett's neck. I thought he had a look of a man that had given up yesterday. I don't blame him in a way. I think as captain he should be digging people out tbh. It is not acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted June 22, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Nabby said: Look at ourselves , we spend millions in that league and took us 3 years and loaning a ton of players to get up Look how many teams have gone down in recent seasons and not gone back up its not that easy to replace a squad , perhaps a manager and turn around a losing team into one that starts winning straight away. Then what we get promoted and have to do another rebuild , plus another season of struggle to stay in league whilst other teams move further us. Relegation is a disaster The situation when we last went down was totally totally different. We had an absolutely garbage squad for a start. Our squad now isn't amazing but it's a damn sight better than the one we went down with. We were filled with toxic, shit, old players. We needed a total rebuild. Behind the scenes was a **** mess. We had no money, and had just been taken over by a charlatan who also had no money and nearly drove us out of business. We were in absolute freefall and were heading the way of Sunderland before we thankfully managed to turn it around. We are in a far far far stronger position this time than we were back then. It's night and day. You could drop our current squad into the Championship and it would get promoted. We'd lose a couple of players sure but we'd have a relative fortune to replace them with excellent Championship players. I'm not scared of relegation. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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