villaajax Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIH-2lZF2yw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 how humilating for labour, miliband needs to sack the fool who came up with this just click it Labour Poster Attacks VAT Rise On Food, But You Don't Pay VAT On Food The Huffington Post UK | Posted: 09/05/2014 11:12 BST | Updated: 09/05/2014 11:59 BST 131 25 5 228 GET UK POLITICS NEWSLETTERS: SUBSCRIBE FOLLOW: David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg, Conservative Party, Labour Party, UK Economy, UK NEWS, Vat, UK Politics News The Labour Party's latest election campaign poster has been widely mocked for not making any sense. The advert, which is being driven around by vans, reads: "They put £450 extra VAT on your shopping bill: Cameron & Clegg, two peas in a pod." However as critics have pointed out that the advert is more than a little bit inaccurate, as a lot of the food items pictured are VAT exempt. Tory MP Henry Smith MP said: "It’s the same old economic incompetence from Labour. They have no long-term plan to fix the economy so instead Ed Miliband resorts to political gimmicks that don’t even add up." In January 2011 the coalition increased the standard rate of VAT from 17.5% to 20% in an attempt to boost tax revenues to cut its deficit. A Labour spokesman defended the advert:"It is not an itemised list of everything they've increased VAT on - it's a representation of average shopping basket." Earlier this week Labour also took a lot of stick, including from many of its own supporters in the commentariat, for its latest party political broadcast which mocked Nick Clegg. The TV broadcast was criticised both for targeting the Lib Dem leader, rather than David Cameron, and for being overly trivial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIH-2lZF2ywIs this the kind of utter tripe we are to expect from the Labour party's campaigning now this Axelrod bloke is over here?With him and Lynton Crosby are both the main parties trying to get the lowest election turnout in history? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Or we could just gather together like the Germans and sing what we really think: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 how humilating for labour, miliband needs to sack the fool who came up with this just click it Labour Poster Attacks VAT Rise On Food, But You Don't Pay VAT On Food The Huffington Post UK | Posted: 09/05/2014 11:12 BST | Updated: 09/05/2014 11:59 BST 131 25 5 228 GET UK POLITICS NEWSLETTERS: SUBSCRIBE FOLLOW: David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg, Conservative Party, Labour Party, UK Economy, UK NEWS, Vat, UK Politics News The Labour Party's latest election campaign poster has been widely mocked for not making any sense. The advert, which is being driven around by vans, reads: "They put £450 extra VAT on your shopping bill: Cameron & Clegg, two peas in a pod." However as critics have pointed out that the advert is more than a little bit inaccurate, as a lot of the food items pictured are VAT exempt. Tory MP Henry Smith MP said: "It’s the same old economic incompetence from Labour. They have no long-term plan to fix the economy so instead Ed Miliband resorts to political gimmicks that don’t even add up." In January 2011 the coalition increased the standard rate of VAT from 17.5% to 20% in an attempt to boost tax revenues to cut its deficit. A Labour spokesman defended the advert:"It is not an itemised list of everything they've increased VAT on - it's a representation of average shopping basket." Earlier this week Labour also took a lot of stick, including from many of its own supporters in the commentariat, for its latest party political broadcast which mocked Nick Clegg. The TV broadcast was criticised both for targeting the Lib Dem leader, rather than David Cameron, and for being overly trivial. You pay VAT on warm food. Anyway the advert says 'shopping bill'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Has pictures of vegetables on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Has pictures of vegetables on it? Has pictures of cleaning products and alcohol on it too. All part of your shopping bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIH-2lZF2ywThat's the first PPB I've seen that hasn't made me want to cut my ears off within the first 20 seconds. It was funny and put valid a point across. It's rightly however, received criticism because it solely attacks the government without presenting any alternative policies, but lets face it, Labour don't really have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 My week: On Tuesday I was around at a friends house. He feels suicidal because he fears he is going to become homeless as his landlord is threatening to put up his rent. He's in a poverty trap, unable to find viable employment. Yesterday I was delivering food to a food bank for the second time in as many weeks. Cameron's Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 In work poverty up. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/exclusive-socalled-inwork-poverty-soars-by-59-under-coalition-as-more-people-with-jobs-are-forced-to-claim-housing-benefit-9340907.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Has pictures of vegetables on it? Has pictures of cleaning products and alcohol on it too. All part of your shopping bill. Why then have fruit and veggies on there? Surely if your going to elaborate on a point like this you should have items like TVs or electrical goods not things like vegetables and fruit where you don't pay VAT! Embarrassing mistake Then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 10, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted May 10, 2014 Has pictures of vegetables on it?Has pictures of cleaning products and alcohol on it too. All part of your shopping bill.Why then have fruit and veggies on there? Surely if your going to elaborate on a point like this you should have items like TVs or electrical goods not things like vegetables and fruit where you don't pay VAT!Embarrassing mistakeThenBecause there are very few people that buy TVs on a weekly basis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Has pictures of vegetables on it? Has pictures of cleaning products and alcohol on it too. All part of your shopping bill. Why then have fruit and veggies on there? Surely if your going to elaborate on a point like this you should have items like TVs or electrical goods not things like vegetables and fruit where you don't pay VAT! Embarrassing mistake Then Does your average weekly shop include a lot of televisions and electrical goods? Most people go to a supermarket to buy a mixture food and household products, when they come to pay, they will notice on their 'shopping bill' (the bill for all of their shopping) that there is a certain amount of VAT on it... coming from the household products or alcohol or perhaps and warm food they might have bought (I will occasionally but a hot roast chicken). It's still part of the shopping bill. If the poster had said they are putting an extra £450 VAT on your food bill, then you would have a point. It's a non story by somebody who has misinterpreted the poster, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Has pictures of vegetables on it? So the fuel that is used to transport the veg from Farm to Shops is exempt? etc etc VAT increases is not just about food as such it affects the price you pay in the shops big style that is the key point. If you don't see that then you are falling for the same things that allow the Tory party to be the only one that have ever increased VAT on a permanent basis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Talking of PR disasters I see Cameron again being shown up. He was very quick to run to TV studios and radio to (rightly) criticise Jimmy Carr over tax avoidance but is now claiming that it's not his job to criticise people like Gary Barlow who has been found out to have even larger tax avoidance "schemes" going on. Hmmm why is that I wonder? ......... ahhh Gary Barlow who was a Tory supporter at the last election maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 10, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted May 10, 2014 Fruit juice is standard rated not zero rated, just to illustrate that not all fruit and veg are zero rated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Looking into it, you pay VAT on nuts, ice cream, yoghurts, cereal, chocolate bars and more HMRC Food VAT Funnily enough you don't pay VAT on Millionaire's Shortbread, who'd have thought it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 10, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted May 10, 2014 no VAT on tunnocks teacakes but put two of them together, remove the biscuit bases and add a sprinkling of coconut (pretty much a snowball) and you pay VAT, decidedly oddNuts are only VATable if shelled and roasted, not if still in shell, so dry roasted peanuts are VATable, pistachio nuts are notThen theres the whole jaffa Cake thang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 that whole jaffa cake thing was entertaining the cream of UK's legal and tax establishment trying to work out what the difference is between a cake and a biscuit and in the end deciding something that was made of cake that had cake in the title and went hard stale like a cake not soft stale like a biscuit was probably a cake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 10, 2014 Moderator Share Posted May 10, 2014 Politicians and cake, eh? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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