tinker Posted December 5, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2013 And the real problem is getting enough people to get off their arises to say NO! Politics is no longer fit for purpose, time for a vote of no confidence........normal people have no leaders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 smiling tory opens new food bank ah, the irony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 smiling Lib Dem opens new food bank ah, the irony Fixed for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I knew wot I wrote, but thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I think the first version was closer to the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Despite the fact that no MP questioned wants it, it looks like they're going to have to suffer an 11% pay rise. It's such a horrible cruel world sometimes but I'm sure they'll battle through this. Remember guys, we're all in it together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm not against the 11% payrise on the condition that ALL other parliamentary expenses and benefits (except travel) are removed and the second home question is resolved by building a sort of "Halls of Residence" for them all. AQ, PIRA and whoever would be then free to target at will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm not against the 11% payrise on the condition that ALL other parliamentary expenses and benefits (except travel) are removed and the second home question is resolved by building a sort of "Halls of Residence" for them all. AQ, PIRA and whoever would be then free to target at will.Yeah yeah, I'm sure all that will probably happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Despite the fact that no MP questioned wants it, it looks like they're going to have to suffer an 11% pay rise. It's such a horrible cruel world sometimes but I'm sure they'll battle through this. Remember guys, we're all in it together. But we have to grasp the nettle sooner or later. The MP's expenses system was set up to hide previous pay-rises and avoid similar backlashes, and it led to systematic fraud. This is an attempt to put that right and start again. There are plenty of public employees doing a worse job for a lot more, so we have to face the reality, as unpleasant as that may be. Edited December 12, 2013 by MakemineVanilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 How about performance related pay? They're all mostly capitalists, they love performance related pay, they say it drives up standards. How much are they worth on their performance I wonder? Hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 PRP wouldn't work for politicians - how do you meause it? You have to have spouted a certain amount of bullshit for the year. % of votes in Parliament Have you met your quote of U Turns for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I was being flippant. However lets explore this...Isn't there a world quality of life index, or a happiness index? I'm sure there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 PRP wouldn't work for politicians - how do you meause it? You have to have spouted a certain amount of bullshit for the year. % of votes in Parliament Have you met your quote of U Turns for the year. What about a Rate Your MP website like with teachers? Every constituent is issued with a code which allows them to give an on-going approval-rating. The MP must then provide information about attendance at Westminster and how they voted and why, and expenses claims. We need more accountability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The Houses of Parliament need a £1.5bn renovation. I can see this being about as popular as their pay rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) How about paying them 2.5 or 3 times the average wage, that way if we get more money, they get more money. Also I wouldn't let any of them stand more than 2 terms. That should discourage career polticians. Edited December 12, 2013 by colhint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 No second jobs would also help massively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
privateer Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 How about paying them 2.5 or 3 times the average wage, that way if we get more money, they get more money How about paying them the national average wage instead? Couple that with the kind of permissible expense claims private sector companies accept and you may get a better class of person as your MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 No putting your relatives on the gravy train. Nadine Dorries' daughter gets £35k for secretarial support despite living 100 miles from London and her constituency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Also I wouldn't let any of them stand more than 2 terms. That should discourage career polticians. There are some bloody good MPs in the H of C, and some very good ones that have been there for a long while. To kick them out because of some strange rule that they've been there too long seems odd to me. Yes, there are some/quite a few shite ones too. But imposing a time limit on all to discourage a few bad eggs seems wrong to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 How about paying them 2.5 or 3 times the average wage, that way if we get more money, they get more money How about paying them the national average wage instead? Couple that with the kind of permissible expense claims private sector companies accept and you may get a better class of person as your MP. Don't see that working really. Whether the individuals mp's are any good is doubtful, however the position carries responsibility. I'm sure the national average covers those jobs at the lower end of the pay scale. I think the position warrants more than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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