villaajax Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 So the Tories plan to make people work for their benefits? Isn't that just a way to get around this frightful business of the minimum wage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Andy Burnham has written to the BBC regarding their lack of coverage for the NHS protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) villaajax, on 30 Sept 2013 - 6:53 PM, said:villaajax, on 30 Sept 2013 - 6:53 PM, said: Andy Burnham has written to the BBC regarding their lack of coverage for the NHS protests. a touch of irony that the story only makes it to the local Manchester newspaper when I googled it Edit: ah , when I went into Google news the Bullingdon Broadcasting Corporation also had the story as well Edited September 30, 2013 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 'Crylaugh' 'lefty bedwetters' 'hilarious'... The level of inhumanity and lack of compassion in the proposals put forward to deal with homelessness is staggering. Yet a certain poster on here thinks its all a bit of a laugh and would rather talk about an irrelevant technicality (the date of a linked website) in order to somehow excuse it? That's the kind of person who votes Tory... An irrelevant technicality like....the council isn't actually planning to do it any more, and hasn't been for two years! Anyway, I think I'll stick a link up to Gordon Brown scrapping the 10p tax rate as evidence that Labour hate the poor. The fact Labour aren't in power any more and that it was 6 years ago is just an irrelevant technicality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) villaajax, on 30 Sept 2013 - 6:53 PM, said:villaajax, on 30 Sept 2013 - 6:53 PM, said: Andy Burnham has written to the BBC regarding their lack of coverage for the NHS protests. a touch of irony that the story only makes it to the local Manchester newspaper when I googled it Edit: ah , when I went into Google news the Bullingdon Broadcasting Corporation also had the story as well If you go to the BBC news website and browse around for it, you can't find it, it's not on the main page, not on the England news page, not even in the Manchester section now! Unless you Google specifically for the article and how many people would do that if they were unaware of it? The BBC should be reporting this properly, not trying to hide it away. Edit - Found it in the Manchester news section, it's reduced to a small headline, halfway down. Edited September 30, 2013 by villaajax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 He he first return I got when I searched for Andy Burnham was about how he faces the chop from the shadow cabinet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) villaajax, on 30 Sept 2013 - 6:53 PM, said:villaajax, on 30 Sept 2013 - 6:53 PM, said: Andy Burnham has written to the BBC regarding their lack of coverage for the NHS protests. a touch of irony that the story only makes it to the local Manchester newspaper when I googled it Edit: ah , when I went into Google news the Bullingdon Broadcasting Corporation also had the story as well If you go to the BBC news website and browse around for it, you can't find it, it's not on the main page, not on the England news page, not even in the Manchester section now! Unless you Google specifically for the article and how many people would do that if they were unaware of it? The BBC should be reporting this properly, not trying to hide it away. Edit - Found it in the Manchester news section, it's reduced to a small headline, halfway down. To be honest I think this is a case of the BBC not getting their filming done properly, then blaming everybody else for not getting a report done. None of the other channels seemed to have a problem. Edited September 30, 2013 by Risso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 To be honest I think this is a case of the BBC not getting their filming done properly, then blaming everybody else for not getting a report done. None of the other channels seemed to have a problem. Not getting their filming done because they were denied access on the instructions of police. Since the Beeb staff are obviously very well acquainted with the logistics and procedures of filming, it's odd that you place the blame on them without any explanation. Do you think they planned their filming in a restricted area without being aware of that? At an event where there are elaborate security arrangements, and when even music festivals have graded levels of access for different areas? If you have a reason for thinking that, it would be great if you would share it. As it is, the chief Beeb person tweeted his lack of understanding of the refusal of access. Again, if you think he was being disingenuous, or maybe trying to cover up an elementary blunder he or his staff had made, it would be helpful to know the basis for that view - evidence, or just opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 'Crylaugh' 'lefty bedwetters' 'hilarious'... The level of inhumanity and lack of compassion in the proposals put forward to deal with homelessness is staggering. Yet a certain poster on here thinks its all a bit of a laugh and would rather talk about an irrelevant technicality (the date of a linked website) in order to somehow excuse it? That's the kind of person who votes Tory... An irrelevant technicality like....the council isn't actually planning to do it any more, and hasn't been for two years! Anyway, I think I'll stick a link up to Gordon Brown scrapping the 10p tax rate as evidence that Labour hate the poor. The fact Labour aren't in power any more and that it was 6 years ago is just an irrelevant technicality. Since the council have demonstrably been planning to do it for a decade, despite many setbacks, why do you say they have abandoned their plans? Given the documented history, isn't it more likely they still want to do this, and will return to it again, like a dog returning to its own vomit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Bullying you say ...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/7285584/Gordon-Brown-bullied-staff-and-undermined-ministers.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Tony why resort to a ahh but labour .... Reply that has little to no relevance yet again. Is it a case that the subject is beyond discussion? Do you agree that the nature and tone of the right wing especially has been and us what really is socially acceptable? Sent from my iPhone using VillaTalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) , it's odd that you place the blame on them without any explanation. ........ - evidence, or just opinion? If only someone posted something on twitter as proof hey .. I read somewhere a comment from a (ex) policeman explaining why the BBC were denied access to the balcony .. I can't link to it as it was a private conversation but it "could" be a plausible explanation ,him being a former policeman and all that Edited September 30, 2013 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Ahhhhhh the old private conversations they happen a lot on vt eh tony? :-) Sent from my iPhone using VillaTalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Tony why resort to a ahh but labour .... To be fair to Tony its about all he has got. You can't defend the indefensible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Tony why resort to a ahh but labour .... Reply that has little to no relevance yet again. Is it a case that the subject is beyond discussion? Do you agree that the nature and tone of the right wing especially has been and us what really is socially acceptable? Sent from my iPhone using VillaTalk Sorry but your post implied bullying was sorta exclusive to the right wing , so I searched on the interweb to see if it was true and found a story about Gordon Brown Imagine my surprise when I also read that Brown wasn't "right wing" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Ahhhhhh the old private conversations they happen a lot on vt eh tony? :-) Sent from my iPhone using VillaTalk You know very well where it took place Ian ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Tony why resort to a ahh but labour .... You can't defend the indefensible. You clearly haven't been reading VT long enough 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I can't help wonder why, if the bbc thought it was an outrage they didn't put it on the main web page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted September 30, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 30, 2013 Tony and Drat, why not take this peculiarly private conversation into private messages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Tony why resort to a ahh but labour .... You can't defend the indefensible. You clearly haven't been reading VT long enough Come to think of it your right. You will on occasions have a good bloody go at defending the indefensible and then resort to the old fail safe of aahh but Labour........ Edited September 30, 2013 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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