kidlewis Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 £7k a second!!!!! is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Click on the link and you will see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc89 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I believe Labour had the right plan for society and would have saved many jobs and livelihoods with their plans; which is the most important thing in my opinion than a meaningless figure on a piece of paper. We are all indebted in this modern world, it's not a foreign concept anymore. And by the way, Monetarism is not a sure way of returning the Country back to prosperity and it could have dangerous effects on Society, it probably will. You need higher disposable income to stimulate the Economy and jobs are a major source of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I believe Labour had the right plan for society and would have saved many jobs and livelihoods with their plans; which is the most important thing in my opinion than a meaningless figure on a piece of paper. We are all indebted in this modern world, it's not a foreign concept anymore. And by the way, Monetarism is not a sure way of returning the Country back to prosperity and it could have dangerous effects on Society, it probably will. You need higher disposable income to stimulate the Economy and jobs are a major source of that. but currently this country is not tax competitive enough to bring in jobs from anywhere else, that needs to change. it's all very well helping the poor and needy but if you can't get business to come to this country and employ people or give small companies (not these big **** banks and large corporations) relief of some sort on jobs to help increase employment then the number of people in poverty will only increase, no matter how much the minimum wage is or weekly job seekers and other benefits. create more jobs and cut the amount spent benefits, that is the ideal. question is how is that best achieved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I believe Labour had the right plan for society and would have saved many jobs and livelihoods with their plans What plans in particular? And how would those plans have saved jobs specifically ? Do you not believe a realignment of this countries financies is required to rectify the debt position we are in ? Yes many people have debt, but most of those people can actually finance that debt. As a country we are spending more than we earn . I am afraid that cannot continue. Whether an individual, company or country it cannot go on spending more than it earns. 44BN pounds is the size of the interest payments this year. So rather than spending 44BN on improving health or education or police or society, this government will be spending it on financing a debt position. How is that having a good effect on society. Higher disposable income? If the majority of your income is swallowed up by paying debt and interest, how is that stimulating anything? Outdated socialist ideas which have been shown to fail time and time again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc89 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Too many people at the top get paid exorbitant salaries, that also needs addressing IMO. We aren't creating jobs, we are just cutting jobs and other public items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I believe Labour had the right plan for society and would have saved many jobs and livelihoods with their plans What plans in particular? And how would those plans have saved jobs specifically ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Too many people at the top get paid exorbitant salaries, that also needs addressing IMO. We aren't creating jobs, we are just cutting jobs and other public items. well a whole lot more jobs have gone in the private sector than the public sector since the recession hit, about time the public sector got scaled back, because the size of government now is unsustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Too many people at the top get paid exorbitant salaries, that also needs addressing IMO. We aren't creating jobs, we are just cutting jobs and other public items. well a whole lot more jobs have gone in the private sector than the public sector since the recession hit, about time the public sector got scaled back, because the size of government now is unsustainable.See if you can dig out an analysis of the growth areas for jobs in the last 13 years and see the difference between private sector (ie the sector that "makes money") and the public sector (ie the sector that is based on taxing the economy of the private sector) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc89 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I believe Labour had the right plan for society and would have saved many jobs and livelihoods with their plans What plans in particular? And how would those plans have saved jobs specifically ? Do you not believe a realignment of this countries financies is required to rectify the debt position we are in ? Yes many people have debt, but most of those people can actually finance that debt. As a country we are spending more than we earn . I am afraid that cannot continue. Whether an individual, company or country it cannot go on spending more than it earns. 44BN pounds is the size of the interest payments this year. So rather than spending 44BN on improving health or education or police or society, this government will be spending it on financing a debt position. How is that having a good effect on society. Higher disposable income? If the majority of your income is swallowed up by paying debt and interest, how is that stimulating anything? Outdated socialist ideas which have been shown to fail time and time again How does stopping people who earn money help stimulate the Economy? and you say they have to pay debts, surely losing their income won't help them pay bills and interest will rise on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc89 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I believe Labour had the right plan for society and would have saved many jobs and livelihoods with their plans What plans in particular? And how would those plans have saved jobs specifically ? I don't believe Brown would have made cuts of this magnitude; I think you will see a lot of unrest in the coming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I said this before the election, but people wanted a "change"...and they will get this under the Tories and Lib Dems. its not the torie/lib dem alliance im scared of its whats coming, its going to be hporrible and had labour come in it would still have been bad if not worse. labour have truely **** us all over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc89 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Tories and Lib Dems are making the decisions they are to blame for the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Ahhh the Tory Mafia are hunting in packs I see. Debtbombshell - what a **** awful website that is - setup and paid for by Ashcrofts millions Good to see Cameron flip flopping today - one minute it was all Labours fault and then admitting that many countries faced similar problems. As all the pundits said today also the ensuring that the old LibDems got some of the blame for these cuts and hardships too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted June 7, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2010 How does stopping people who earn money help stimulate the Economy? and you say they have to pay debts, surely losing their income won't help them pay bills and interest will rise on this. Nobody in the public sector earns money. They take money, they don't earn it. (outside of cases like hiring the military out as mercenaries or whatnot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Too many people at the top get paid exorbitant salaries, that also needs addressing IMO. We aren't creating jobs, we are just cutting jobs and other public items. well a whole lot more jobs have gone in the private sector than the public sector since the recession hit, about time the public sector got scaled back, because the size of government now is unsustainable.See if you can dig out an analysis of the growth areas for jobs in the last 13 years and see the difference between private sector (ie the sector that "makes money") and the public sector (ie the sector that is based on taxing the economy of the private sector) can't find a suitable graph to show the total public vs private sector employment by year. can try and get the data and compile my own but don't have excel on this laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I said this before the election, but people wanted a "change"...and they will get this under the Tories and Lib Dems. its not the torie/lib dem alliance im scared of its whats coming, its going to be hporrible and had labour come in it would still have been bad if not worse. labour have truely **** us all over We were more in debt in from 1993 to 1997 under the Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc89 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 How does stopping people who earn money help stimulate the Economy? and you say they have to pay debts, surely losing their income won't help them pay bills and interest will rise on this. Nobody in the public sector earns money. They take money, they don't earn it. Money doesn't exist anyway We are floating along with delusion and getting too worried about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Nobody in the public sector earns money. They take money, they don't earn it. Levi - what a frankly ridiculous and insulting thing to say. So my sister - a Doctor - does not "earn" her money? My Daughter - a pharmacist - doesn't earn her money? my son-in-law - a teacher - doesn't earn his money etc etc What about the police? what about the fire service? - these are all public sector jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Ahhh the Tory Mafia are hunting in packs I see. Debtbombshell - what a **** awful website that is - setup and paid for by Ashcrofts millions where did you find out about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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