drat01 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Seems that more and more people now don't trust a political figure to tell the truth - no real surprise I susppose link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Seems that more and more people now don't trust a political figure to tell the truth - no real surprise I susppose link Pretty much agree with that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Seems that more and more people now don't trust a political figure to tell the truth - no real surprise I susppose link we did the FW for Ipsos on this survey , so the data is probably rubbish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Seems that more and more people now don't trust a political figure to tell the truth - no real surprise I susppose link Looking at that table, and the listing of occupational groups rated higher than politicians in terms of trustworthiness, I found myself wondering this: which of those groups have not been the specific target of attacks by Government ministers over the last twelve months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 more people trust priests than scientists! just throwing that one out there peace n love and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Seems that more and more people now don't trust a political figure to tell the truth - no real surprise I susppose link Were those questioned in the survey 'ordinary men/women on the street'? If so, shouldn't the most difficult result of that be: Ordinary man/woman on the street - 55%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) The work program - another failure and complete waste of money it seems: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21532191 Most shocking thing about all this is that not only have they got nowhere near their target of 11.9% it fell well below the estimate of how many long term claimants would have found work had the work program not have been launched. They would therefore have been better off doing nothing.The cost for this **** up is expected to be between 3 - 5 billion over 5 years. If it lasts that long of course. Edited February 22, 2013 by markavfc40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 22, 2013 Moderator Share Posted February 22, 2013 Time for my regular "they mess everything up" comment.Carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 So the Germans and French are pushing ahead with financial transaction (robin hood) tax. Should UK do so too? (Although it won't happen under Tories) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Eastleigh By election next week , without any adoption scares it seems very low key on the media front but does anyone have any predictions ?? In theory it's a lib / Tory heartland but now we have the "One Nation " party looking out for us ,one would expect Labour to romp home .. however Labour seem to be putting the word out that they will come 4th behind UKIP ( maybe so they can claim victory if they come third ?? ) Some reports seems to saying there is every chance the Libs will actually increase their % of the vote .. is that a nail in the coffin for Cameron as Nigel suggests ? a respite for Clegg or is it just another boring by election ?? Edited February 22, 2013 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 So the Germans and French are pushing ahead with financial transaction (robin hood) tax. Should UK do so too? (Although it won't happen under Tories)No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Eastleigh By election next week , without any adoption scares it seems very low key on the media front but does anyone have any predictions ?? In theory it's a lib / Tory heartland but now we have the "One Nation " party looking out for us ,one would expect Labour to romp home .. however Labour seem to be putting the word out that they will come 4th behind UKIP ( maybe so they can claim victory if they come third ?? ) Some reports seems to saying there is every chance the Libs will actually increase their % of the vote .. is that a nail in the coffin for Cameron as Nigel suggests ? a respite for Clegg or is it just another boring by election ?? Labour have no chance whatsoever - If the Tory party do not "romp home" then it will be a total disaster for Cameron and Gideon, especially considering the amount of monies they have poured in for the campaign. Clegg is a dead man walking and his unpopularity will be reflected in the LibDem vote - many who voted for them before will no longer do so while he remains in charge (with strings pulled by the Tories). UKIP are now starting to be challenged for what they are really about and Farage hiding from the electorate is as much about the dirty washing, e.g. links with Le Pen etc from France, as anything else. Basically Cameron is on a hiding with this whatever the outcome - long may that continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 So the Germans and French are pushing ahead with financial transaction (robin hood) tax. Should UK do so too? (Although it won't happen under Tories) Abso-flippin-lutely But as you say Cameron and Gideon do not have the balls to upset some of their biggest backers from the financial world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 So the Germans and French are pushing ahead with financial transaction (robin hood) tax. Should UK do so too? (Although it won't happen under Tories) Abso-flippin-lutely But as you say Cameron and Gideon do not have the balls to upset some of their biggest backers from the financial world good to see the financial world have now joined Murdoch on the "was Ok but now aren't" list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 So the Germans and French are pushing ahead with financial transaction (robin hood) tax. Should UK do so too? (Although it won't happen under Tories)Abso-flippin-lutely But as you say Cameron and Gideon do not have the balls to upset some of their biggest backers from the financial worldUnless it is implemented globally, which it won't be, then all it would do is drive financial sector business out of London. The idea is the definition of stupidity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 So the Germans and French are pushing ahead with financial transaction (robin hood) tax. Should UK do so too? (Although it won't happen under Tories) Abso-flippin-lutely But as you say Cameron and Gideon do not have the balls to upset some of their biggest backers from the financial world good to see the financial world have now joined Murdoch on the "was Ok but now aren't" list But Tony - as you well know some of the biggest (and loudest) against this also contribute significantly financially to the Tory party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Eastleigh By election next week , without any adoption scares it seems very low key on the media front but does anyone have any predictions ?? In theory it's a lib / Tory heartland but now we have the "One Nation " party looking out for us ,one would expect Labour to romp home .. however Labour seem to be putting the word out that they will come 4th behind UKIP ( maybe so they can claim victory if they come third ?? ) Some reports seems to saying there is every chance the Libs will actually increase their % of the vote .. is that a nail in the coffin for Cameron as Nigel suggests ? a respite for Clegg or is it just another boring by election ?? Labour have no chance whatsoever - If the Tory party do not "romp home" then it will be a total disaster for Cameron and Gideon, especially considering the amount of monies they have poured in for the campaign. Clegg is a dead man walking and his unpopularity will be reflected in the LibDem vote - many who voted for them before will no longer do so while he remains in charge (with strings pulled by the Tories). UKIP are now starting to be challenged for what they are really about and Farage hiding from the electorate is as much about the dirty washing, e.g. links with Le Pen etc from France, as anything else. Basically Cameron is on a hiding with this whatever the outcome - long may that continue Libs have every single councillor in Eastleigh don't they , and held it since 94 so i thought Clegg had more to lose on this one than Cameron (though only just) ?? fallout could be interesting following the result , they can't all win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 So the Germans and French are pushing ahead with financial transaction (robin hood) tax. Should UK do so too? (Although it won't happen under Tories) Abso-flippin-lutely But as you say Cameron and Gideon do not have the balls to upset some of their biggest backers from the financial world Unless it is implemented globally, which it won't be, then all it would do is drive financial sector business out of London. The idea is the definition of stupidity. That is nothing more than scare story. There is no proof to that at all. In fact the opposite exists now. The UK has a stamp duty of 0.5% on share transactions, something other countries do not. That has not resulted in any loss of trade or movement to other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Eastleigh By election next week , without any adoption scares it seems very low key on the media front but does anyone have any predictions ?? In theory it's a lib / Tory heartland but now we have the "One Nation " party looking out for us ,one would expect Labour to romp home .. however Labour seem to be putting the word out that they will come 4th behind UKIP ( maybe so they can claim victory if they come third ?? ) Some reports seems to saying there is every chance the Libs will actually increase their % of the vote .. is that a nail in the coffin for Cameron as Nigel suggests ? a respite for Clegg or is it just another boring by election ?? Labour have no chance whatsoever - If the Tory party do not "romp home" then it will be a total disaster for Cameron and Gideon, especially considering the amount of monies they have poured in for the campaign. Clegg is a dead man walking and his unpopularity will be reflected in the LibDem vote - many who voted for them before will no longer do so while he remains in charge (with strings pulled by the Tories). UKIP are now starting to be challenged for what they are really about and Farage hiding from the electorate is as much about the dirty washing, e.g. links with Le Pen etc from France, as anything else. Basically Cameron is on a hiding with this whatever the outcome - long may that continue Libs have every single councillor in Eastleigh don't they , and held it since 94 so i thought Clegg had more to lose on this one than Cameron (though only just) ?? fallout could be interesting following the result , they can't all win The Lib dems currently have easily the majority but not all of the councillors in the Eastleigh council. BUT and that is a big BUT, the Lib Dems are shot because of the betrayal of Clegg. Lib Dem's wont typically move to Tory, and considering the actions of the Tory party to date there probably will be more of an abstention rather than movement of voting. That should in theory leave the Tory party with an easy ride. Add to that the millions Ashcroft has pumped into the party for seats like this and they should have a massive advantage. At the last election the Lib Dems got 47% of the vote the Tory party got 39%. If Cameron does not win here then its a big problem for him, especially if he bleeds votes to UKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Ian is spot on. Lib Dem voters will just abstain. At the moment you vote Lib Dem you get Tory anyway so whats the point. I'd imagine it will be an extremely low turnout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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