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Ours had at least six different loony right wing parties on the ticket.

I'm sure this ought to be in the quiz thread but I'll give it a go:

Conservative

UKIP

We Demand a Referendum Party

New Labour

BNP

Yorkshire born for YCCC

Not bad!

An Independence From Europe.

British National Party.

Conservative.

English Democrats.

NO2EU.

UKIP.

Yorkshire First.

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Ours had at least six different loony right wing parties on the ticket.

I'm sure this ought to be in the quiz thread but I'll give it a go:

Conservative

UKIP

We Demand a Referendum Party

New Labour

BNP

Yorkshire born for YCCC

Not bad!

An Independence From Europe.

British National Party.

Conservative.

English Democrats.

NO2EU.

UKIP.

Yorkshire First.

 

You think NO2EU are right-wing? They're one of the most left-wing parties standing in this. They make the Greens look like hard-core Conservatives. Euroscepticism seems to be something associated with the right (probably due to UKIP) but there are actually quite a few on the left as well it seems.

 

Think there were just as many "loony" left parties on the ballot as there were for the right, at least here in the SE anyway. From what I can remember:

 

Labour

Socialist

Lib Dem

Green

Peace

 

Shame the results don't come out until Monday. Didn't they come out at the same time as the local election results in 2009?

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Shame the results don't come out until Monday. Didn't they come out at the same time as the local election results in 2009?

 

 

I think so but more than 10 people turned out for this year's election.

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I've noticed the media are labeling people who are voting for UKIP as "protest voters"

 

Isn't that kind of rude?

 

Surely there are people out there voting for them because they believe in their policies and not just voting out of protest against the other parties?

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I've noticed the media are labeling people who are voting for UKIP as "protest voters"

 

Isn't that kind of rude?

 

Surely there are people out there voting for them because they believe in their policies and not just voting out of protest against the other parties?

They (deliberately) haven't got any policies.

Their manifesto of policies for the last elections was described by farage as 486 pages of rubbish (or similar). This time, they've just been saying over and over again "stop immigration". They've deliberately avoided any policies, because they just wanted to get one, anti immigration, message across. It's worked. Well that and the fact that a heck of a lot of people think everyone else (Lab, Con, Lib etc.) are a bunch of words removed.

Faragae is another reason UKIP is basically presented as being him. Any (rare) time any other UPIK bod appears they look like creeps and slimeballs. By deliberately doing it all through Farage, who people "like" they've also done well.

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The thing about Farage is, I can quite easily imagine him battering a puppy to death with a fag in his mouth. It's far too vivid as well. Did it actually happen?

 

Anyway. I don't get it. I come on here, see all the reasonable, well-rounded, balanced, stable people voting for anything but UKIP. I also have friends on social media who are the same. But UKIP are still doing well. Are there that many stupid people about?

 

My elections were euro only last night. I voted Lib Dem just because that's what I've always voted. Don't like either Conservative or Labour, and I just needed to vote anything but UKIP.

 

Shame I didn't read this thread earlier, I would've voted Green. Lib Dem may not have covered themselves in glory since the GE but they're still the political leaning I feel most aligned to.

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I don't know a single individual in my family, in my social group or through work that has ever said they would vote UKIP.

 

Yet on driving around the country these last few days their posters and banners are everywhere. In fact, as I drove into my home town yesterday there was a guy driving a big old Seat with UKIP stickers all over the back of it. Ah, the irony, the guy has a shitty spanish built car that's part of a german car group and he's covered it in UKIP stickers.

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The thing about Farage is, I can quite easily imagine him battering a puppy to death with a fag in his mouth. It's far too vivid as well. Did it actually happen?

 

Anyway. I don't get it. I come on here, see all the reasonable, well-rounded, balanced, stable people voting for anything but UKIP. I also have friends on social media who are the same. But UKIP are still doing well. Are there that many stupid people about?

 

My elections were euro only last night. I voted Lib Dem just because that's what I've always voted. Don't like either Conservative or Labour, and I just needed to vote anything but UKIP.

 

Shame I didn't read this thread earlier, I would've voted Green. Lib Dem may not have covered themselves in glory since the GE but they're still the political leaning I feel most aligned to.

 

What people need to realise and sharpish is that the majority of people who vote for UKIP are neither racist or stupid.  Labelling them as such, with the main parties believing it, is just playing into Farage's hands entirely.  Very few people would admit in public to "not wanting to live next to Romanians" but the polling booth is private, and for lots of people, the massive influx of people from the EU has had an effect on their lives, whether directly or indirectly.  And the free movment of people is a policy that absolutely nobody has ever had the chance to vote on.  It's maybe unpalatable, but they're popular for a reason, and the mainstream parties need to get to grip with that, because one or the other, or both, are going to suffer in the General Election because of it.

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What people need to realise and sharpish is that the majority of people who vote for UKIP are neither racist or stupid.  Labelling them as such,

 

 

I don't think many people are labelling the voters as racist or stupid. They are, however, endorsing racism, xenophobia, homophobia and, somewhat ironically, the very same strain of neo-liberal politics that has left them so disenchanted, by voting for them.

 

People look for easy answers and Farage and co provide the easiest by blaming everyone but the people that actually got us into, and benefit from, the mess we're in.

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