Kingfisher Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I'd have Lucas' babies, if I were a woman, and she were a man. Total respect for her, we need more like her in politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Don't know a lot about her tbh but I recall taking a look at the Greens mannifesto at the last election and its written by a bunch of fruitcakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xann Posted September 1, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2013 ...Greens... a bunch of fruitcakes. A step up from nest feathering scum. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 When was the last time there was a genuine 'thinker' in charge? They all seem so bloody shallow. But then, by and large, I'm a believer of a country getting the politicians they deserve. If we produce shallow minded arseholes then we deserve to be run by shallow minded arseholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 1, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 1, 2013 When was the last time there was a genuine 'thinker' in charge? They all seem so bloody shallow. But then, by and large, I'm a believer of a country getting the politicians they deserve. If we produce shallow minded arseholes then we deserve to be run by shallow minded arseholes.Last time a thinker was leader of a Party was Michael Foot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Is there anyone out there Pete that you think could make a good leader of their respective parties or even PM ? Weak as Ed is , who else is there on Lanours side ? Balls seems to fancy himself as leader but if you thought Milliband was unelectable to the British public , Balls would make the Unions wish they had rigged the election for the other brother after all !! On the Tory side , Boris has the public backing ( scores highest approval in polls Etc) but could anyone really imagine him as PM ? Gove is probably the strongest Tory candidate , but will the floating public take to him ? The libs ... Well Im stumped to suggest anyone I'd say that's pretty accurate as all three parties are populated (polluted?) by f**kwits it shouldn't come as a shock Gove would never be electable, he is the Tory version of Ed Balls, utterly loathesome Ed Balls isn't that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 When was the last time there was a genuine 'thinker' in charge? They all seem so bloody shallow. But then, by and large, I'm a believer of a country getting the politicians they deserve. If we produce shallow minded arseholes then we deserve to be run by shallow minded arseholes. Last time a thinker was leader of a Party was Michael Foot And the Tory media went after him for wearing a warm coat on a cold day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 1, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 1, 2013 Is there anyone out there Pete that you think could make a good leader of their respective parties or even PM ?Weak as Ed is , who else is there on Lanours side ? Balls seems to fancy himself as leader but if you thought Milliband was unelectable to the British public , Balls would make the Unions wish they had rigged the election for the other brother after all !!On the Tory side , Boris has the public backing ( scores highest approval in polls Etc) but could anyone really imagine him as PM ? Gove is probably the strongest Tory candidate , but will the floating public take to him ?The libs ... Well Im stumped to suggest anyoneI'd say that's pretty accurate as all three parties are populated (polluted?) by f**kwits it shouldn't come as a shockGove would never be electable, he is the Tory version of Ed Balls, utterly loathsome Ed Balls isn't that bad.No really he is. Him and his wife are utterly loathsome. The very definition of career politicians, they would change their minds at the drop of a hat if it meant retaining "power" as I believe they've done on more than one occasion. I prefer my politicians to believe in what they're saying. Not only that but Balls manages to come across as both smug and a bully at the same time. I've found nothing to like about the man... ever. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) ...Greens... a bunch of fruitcakes. Not. Sure. If. Serious. As opposed the the policies of the current lot. Written by whom? For the benefit of whom? A step up from nest feathering scum. Edited September 1, 2013 by Kingfisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 When was the last time there was a genuine 'thinker' in charge? They all seem so bloody shallow. But then, by and large, I'm a believer of a country getting the politicians they deserve. If we produce shallow minded arseholes then we deserve to be run by shallow minded arseholes. Last time a thinker was leader of a Party was Michael Foot And the Tory media went after him for wearing a warm coat on a cold day. yep, I'd have gone the same way deep and principled thinker, not suited to the pack animal mentality of party politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 1, 2013 ....the pack animal mentality of party politics That's the single most major problem with it. The tribal element. Over and over again it results in bad laws and bad decisions. The second problem is short-termism, probably because of "electoral necessity" (from their viewpoint). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2013 Gove? In charge? I'd be out of this country before the possibility even arose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted September 1, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2013 Gove? In charge? I'd be out of this country before the possibility even arose. oh you're so wrong he's a strongman, we need powerful leadership just look at him as he strides manfully across the lobby his puffy whetted red lips telling lesser men they should have voted for bombing and killing he properly is the uttermost stereotype of an upper class chinless turd 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Any chance Labour will go for Chuka Umunna before David's dramatic return? I think there will be a leading position for him in the very near future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 (edited) Manufacturing output in the UK grew at its strongest pace for nearly two decades in August, new figures show. The improvement in the sector adds weight to evidence that the speed of economic recovery is increasing, with GDP for the second quarter of the year measured at 0.7%. yet another reason 2015 won't be a good year for Ed Edited September 2, 2013 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 ...Greens... a bunch of fruitcakes. Not. Sure. If. Serious. As opposed the the policies of the current lot. Written by whom? For the benefit of whom? totally serious , have you read their manifesto outside of we believe trees' should be hugged ? it's bonkers and the math is totally unsustainable ... they'd make Gordon look competent with money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 2, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 2, 2013 totally serious , have you read their manifesto outside of we believe trees' should be hugged ? it's bonkers and the math is totally unsustainable ... they'd make Gordon look competent with money Yes.....and they still don't make Gideon look good with money. More seriously they've a couple of totally unreality based policies, but what's published (no parties detail their whole, real aims) is no less mad, in it's own way than any of the main ones. I mean it's mad to do exactly what got us into trouble the last times again and expect a different result. e.g. boost housing prices via cheap loans... or fail to control the banking and finance sector properly...or fail to regulate lobbying...and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Manufacturing output in the UK grew at its strongest pace for nearly two decades in August, new figures show. The improvement in the sector adds weight to evidence that the speed of economic recovery is increasing, with GDP for the second quarter of the year measured at 0.7%. yet another reason 2015 won't be a good year for Ed Disagree Tony, because the wealth is still only going to a few while more and more are left suffering. The record levels of youth unemployment for example, how does that reconcile against the so called "good" of that story? What about the record Zero hours contracts and the impacts that has making mortgages and lending nearly impossible. What about the NHS hits , tax avoidance, a desire to take us into war , in-fighting within the ranks of the Tory party, the fact that they could not even win a majority last time etc The only people who are seemingly happy are those who have wealth already - i.e. the core Tory support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 (edited) Give it 20 years when oil production is on the wane causing a rather sharp rise in the cost of living, and people will be wondering why they didn't treat some of these 'green policies' with a little more seriousness. Edited September 2, 2013 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 We made a lot on the Vodafone deal in tax, oh no we didn’t, as it seems its a Dutch company. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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