Zatman Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 dont know how many times over the years I have heard this is the end about United. They won league at a canter last season and Id expect them to be close to top come end of this season Yes, but the ace up United's sleeve has always been Alex Ferguson. He's not there anymore so I can see why more people are saying they could slip this year. but I personally think everybody is underestimating Moyes, every interview Ive seen he has come across that he will do just fine and its a team of winners like Giggs, Vidic, Ferdinand are not going to go down easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 United rejected an offer of £10m + Mata or Luiz for Rooney apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) you'll see some porkies this summer from lazy journos, that ones absolutely unbelievable if i was chelsea i wouldnt accept rooney + £10m for mata... Edited July 17, 2013 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 most ridiculous rumour ive heard for a while. that would value Rooney at about 70-80 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Mata is twice the player Rooney is plus £10m?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 It will be interesting to see what happens with Luiz under Mourinho, as good as he is, he will have to change his style of play if he wants to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 not really Ramos was a similar type of defender until MOurinho moved him to centre defence now he one of best in world. He also worked with Pepe who is a headcase. be more worried if i was Cahill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Mata or Luiz? "Yeah, offer them one of them Spanishy lookin ones and ten mil. That'll do nicely" said Jose Mourinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Mata + £10m for Rooney seems like a credible rumour, reported on the BBC and elsewhere. I'd have bitten Chelsea's hands off for that if I was Moyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Luiz is very positionally ill disciplined. Often drifts too far forward and gets caught out. Mourinho is very meticulous and he won't stand for that, it's why Joe Cole used to get criticized by Mourinho back in 2006. Luiz is a talented player, but he will need to be more disciplined under Mourinho in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 "Yeah, offer them one of them Spanishy lookin ones and ten mil. That'll do nicely" said Jose Mourinho. Link? I'm just playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 17, 2013 Moderator Share Posted July 17, 2013 Hm. If Manure fail to sign their targets this season & Rooney leaves... Could be the beginning of the end.And if they lose Carrick to injury they have NO central midfield. As it is they're down to bare bones.If they get Fabrigas and Fellini it won't look so bad.I take it you didn't read the post I was responding to. The one that implied they wouldn't sign Fellaini and Fabregas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 dont know how many times over the years I have heard this is the end about United. They won league at a canter last season and Id expect them to be close to top come end of this season Yes, but the ace up United's sleeve has always been Alex Ferguson. He's not there anymore so I can see why more people are saying they could slip this year. but I personally think everybody is underestimating Moyes, every interview Ive seen he has come across that he will do just fine and its a team of winners like Giggs, Vidic, Ferdinand are not going to go down easy I think the 'Fergie factor' will remain within the squad for atleast a year or so. But once Ferdinand, Giggs, Rooney & Vidic have left the team, then I can see them hitting some trouble. On paper, their squad really isn't good enough to stand up to Chelsea or Manchester City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted July 17, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2013 Hm. If Manure fail to sign their targets this season & Rooney leaves... Could be the beginning of the end. And if they lose Carrick to injury they have NO central midfield. As it is they're down to bare bones. If they get Fabrigas and Fellini it won't look so bad. Not sure the baroque style will suit ManU 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Luiz is very positionally ill disciplined. Often drifts too far forward and gets caught out. Mourinho is very meticulous and he won't stand for that, it's why Joe Cole used to get criticized by Mourinho back in 2006. Luiz is a talented player, but he will need to be more disciplined under Mourinho in my opinion. you didnt see his Confederations Cup final performance. HE was well disciplined against best country in world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I'm surprised Chelsea would risk upsetting one of their star players. Jose: "Hey Juan, how do you fancy playing for Utd next season" Mata: "Urm, why? What did I do?" Jose: "Actually, don't worry about it, they don't want you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Luiz is very positionally ill disciplined. Often drifts too far forward and gets caught out. Mourinho is very meticulous and he won't stand for that, it's why Joe Cole used to get criticized by Mourinho back in 2006. Luiz is a talented player, but he will need to be more disciplined under Mourinho in my opinion. you didnt see his Confederations Cup final performance. HE was well disciplined against best country in world Yes I saw that game, and in that game he was. But many times for Chelsea he was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Mourinho knows what he's doing. It's good to have him back. He's up to his old tricks already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 i dont know the Mata rumours have been going on all summer, he is a brilliant palyer and I think José has probably gone off Spanish players after falling out with them all in Madrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 i dont know the Mata rumours have been going on all summer, he is a brilliant palyer and I think José has probably gone off Spanish players after falling out with them all in MadridI mean his recent Redknappesque comments about Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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