bobzy Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Well clearly it wasn’t over or the appeal would have failed Hence the whole “spirit of the game” thing. Bairstow technically being out is correct. Aussies being words removed is also correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 a example of the spirit of the game.... there are many other examples of this out there from all teams playing cricket. Just get on with the game and stop making excuses for poor decision making 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 I also enjoyed Broad being overly dramatic with the questioning. That’s apparently how the Aussies want the game to be played, and I fully expect the same in their next batting innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, imavillan said: a example of the spirit of the game.... there are many other examples of this out there from all teams playing cricket. Just get on with the game and stop making excuses for poor decision making Yeah, this is much more like it. Very poor form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, bobzy said: I also enjoyed Broad being overly dramatic with the questioning. That’s apparently how the Aussies want the game to be played, and I fully expect the same in their next batting innings. I dont think Broad can get on his high horse about the spirit of the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Zatman said: I dont think Broad can get on his high horse about the spirit of the game He didn’t - he was simply over dramatically pointing out that he was in his crease and asking the Aussies if he could move from it, then checking with both umpires. Enjoyable stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 45 minutes ago, imavillan said: a example of the spirit of the game.... there are many other examples of this out there from all teams playing cricket. Just get on with the game and stop making excuses for poor decision making In that case, I'm not sure what's right there, if you drop the ball at your feet and run then you have to factor in that the bowler is probably going to want to field the ball in his follow-through. Who obstructs who, the bowler knocking over the batsman, or the batsman obstructing the fielder therefore should be out anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 12 hours ago, ozvillafan said: Oh please. Bairstow tried the same thing not 2 days earlier. But was it the end of the over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: In that case, I'm not sure what's right there, if you drop the ball at your feet and run then you have to factor in that the bowler is probably going to want to field the ball in his follow-through. Who obstructs who, the bowler knocking over the batsman, or the batsman obstructing the fielder therefore should be out anyway? Yes that is totally different. Nothing was deliberate. It was an accidental collision. Not defending Collingwood but this is not test match cricket either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, PaulC said: Yes that is totally different. Nothing was deliberate. It was an accidental collision. Not defending Collingwood but this is not test match cricket either. Test match or not, the point being though is 'the spirit of the game' that everyone keeps harping on about. Clearly it's an accidental collision, if England played 'in the spirit of the game' they would nat have taken to wicket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, imavillan said: Test match or not, the point being though is 'the spirit of the game' that everyone keeps harping on about. Clearly it's an accidental collision, if England played 'in the spirit of the game' they would nat have taken to wicket. Yes quite true. I think Collingwiod was wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right. I'd like to see Bairstow do the same thing to one of their batsmen and Stokes to not appeal it like he said he would. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, imavillan said: Test match or not, the point being though is 'the spirit of the game' that everyone keeps harping on about. Clearly it's an accidental collision, if England played 'in the spirit of the game' they would nat have taken to wicket. The Spirit of the game is a cop out especially at a high stakes level. I guarantee Stokes would have done the same the other way around in such a ferocious sporting environment He could have took Duckett off in the spirit of the game when Starc caught him. Umpires are there to make the calls and they did on both occasions Anyway as said this is all a copout to cover up England failings in this match 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, PaulC said: Yes quite true. I think Collingwiod was wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right. I'd like to see Bairstow do the same thing to one of their batsmen and Stokes to not appeal it like he said he would. It would mean Bairstow would have to actually catch the ball and hit the stumps. Australia could run 3 in that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Nobody probably old enough to remember this. England v West indies in the carribesn. Think it was 1973. Final ball of days play. Kalicharan 100 not out. Walks off before stumps were called. Tony Greig ran him out. There was such a commotion over night it was decided that Kalicharan should not be out and resumed his innings next day. The right thing was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: It would mean Bairstow would have to actually catch the ball and hit the stumps. Australia could run 3 in that time Bairstow had a much better game behind the stumps than in the first test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Zatman said: The Spirit of the game is a cop out especially at a high stakes level. I guarantee Stokes would have done the same the other way around in such a ferocious sporting environment He could have took Duckett off in the spirit of the game when Starc caught him. Umpires are there to make the calls and they did on both occasions Anyway as said this is all a copout to cover up England failings in this match That's football mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: The Spirit of the game is a cop out especially at a high stakes level. I guarantee Stokes would have done the same the other way around in such a ferocious sporting environment He could have took Duckett off in the spirit of the game when Starc caught him. Umpires are there to make the calls and they did on both occasions Anyway as said this is all a copout to cover up England failings in this match What a load of nonsense Why didn't the England team do it? Take a look at batsmen at the end of every over, ever. They don't just hang around unnecessarily. Even the clips posted earlier show Bairstow marking his ground then walking out of the crease with the Australian fielders doing nothing about it. Because that's what happens. That's the normal course of events. Australia decided to be words removed. It's fine, he's out, but it's piss poor sportsmanship. That's all it is. Nothing wrong with that, the Aussies should embrace it and say "Yeah, we were words removed. So what". On Starc; why should Duckett walk? He was dropped 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 The spirit of the game seems to be a bit like the unwritten rules in baseball. Personally, if an action is deemed legal then it should be allowed. This is top-level sports, not a community get-together with tea and cakes. Bairstow lost concentration and got paid for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Anyway the Yorkshire crowd don't take any prisoners. The Aussies are going to get some real stick at Headingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: The spirit of the game seems to be a bit like the unwritten rules in baseball. Personally, if an action is deemed legal then it should be allowed. This is top-level sports, not a community get-together with tea and cakes. Bairstow lost concentration and got paid for it. There's a lot of unwritten rules in cricket though if teams are willing to break them all then it just would become a farce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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