Xela Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Another stat for anyone who thinks Steyn may not be one of the all time greats. Wickets per test. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/429278.html Murali top but Steyn tops of all seamers over the last 50/60 years. I think we can get bogged down in stats. That table puts MacGill at the same level as Warne. No doubt Steyn is a fantastic player but I wouldn't have him as my best seamer. Edited December 31, 2013 by Xela 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Another stat for anyone who thinks Steyn may not be one of the all time greats. Wickets per test. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/429278.html Murali top but Steyn tops of all seamers over the last 50/60 years. I think we can get bogged down in stats. That table puts MacGill at the same level as Warne. No doubt Steyn is a fantastic player but I wouldn't have him as my best seamer. True but Macgill probably would have been a great if Shane Warne hadn't have been around. Just a very unlucky bowler. Some stats aren't so important but for a bowler srs and wickets per tests are very relevant particularly when taken over a long period of time. Averages and economy rates even the amount of wickets taken over all can be misleading. Just as batting averages can be misleading. For instance Sehwag scored most of his runs in India. But Steyn has taken wickets all over even in the sub continent. Even Shane warne has a poor record in India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Probably why Murali has a much better sr. Sorry i will shut up about Steyn now, unless his name his brought up again or he breaks another record like the fastest to 400 wickets. That will be at least another year though! Edited December 31, 2013 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghost Posted January 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2014 Don't know if anyone followed it, but the 3rd ODI between New Zealand and West Indies just finished. Incredible match for several reasons: - Game was shortened to 21 overs a side because of poor weather earlier on. - New Zealand took 283 from their 21 overs. 283! - If the innings had lasted a proper 50 overs, NZ would've scored 674 at their current run-rate. - If it was a 20/20 match, NZ would have set the record for the highest score of 275. - NZ blasted 22 sixes, a new record in ODIs. - Jessie Ryder scored 100 off 46 balls, 6th fastest ODI hundred. - Corey Anderson scored 100 off 36 balls, the new fastest ODI hundred (previous record being off 37 balls by Shahid Afridi in 1996). - There was a competition going for spectators to win $100,000 for catching a six - nobody won. - The game was played in Queenstown, which is probably the most incredible setting for a game of cricket. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) England team that started this series: England team that is likely to play in the fifth test: Cook- C Cook- C Carberry Carberry Trott Bell KP KP Bell Ballance Root Stokes Prior- WK Bairstow- WK Broad Borthwick Swann Broad Anderson Anderson Tremlett Rankin Edited January 2, 2014 by Avfc96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Looks like it's Root out not Carberry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Yep about time Ballance and Rankin got a game. Root is out though not Carberry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Root dropped by the looks of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Be interesting to see hoe big Boyd gets on. I can see Giles taking over inside a year even if Flower doesn't walk at the end of the series. Could see a fair few more Warwick boys in and around the squad. They're sticking with Woakes, making him Lions captain despite his up and down performances for England so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 And Broad bowls Warner with a beauty of a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 3 wickets down before lunch, got to make sure we press home the advantage after. But knowing England we will let a good position slip as we have done all series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 94-4, nice start. Again. Think we could win this one - after all, Australia haven't won a test in 2014, and we're unbeaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 St Brad to the rescue again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 5 nil drubbing almost certain now. Both flower and cooke must go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Carbs is finished too barring a spectacular 2nd innings. Really lacking a quality opener atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 It's amazing how good Nick Compton is starting to look again while he's not in the squad... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 England are just so bad all around, not sure if its talent or just all confidence gone. players like Root and Carberry are just not good enough at this level The fact all Australian top 5 have centuries in this tour and none of ENgland players do really shows how bad they are. Also Johnson has been made to look like Dale Steyn or McGrath in this series. Why cant Anderson do the same, he seems to struggle outside of England and probably needs dropping for next tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 An all too familiar start to the test then. Get off to a great start, have Australia on the ropes, then let Australia get away from them again. It says a lot, that a bang average player like Steve Smith now has more centuries in this series than the whole of the England squad. My guess is England will be bowled out cheaply tomorrow (for a sub 200 score), Aus will bat us into the ground again, building a 500 + lead, then England will capitulate again in the final innings. 5-0, job done. Only shining light has been the emergence of Ben Stokes. Only the second player in history to get 120 runs in one innings, and 6 for in his first 4 test matches. Nice too see. Hope he can kick on and help rebuild this side now. On the subject of the captaincy, say Cook quits / is sacked at the end of the series, who replaces him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 doesnt Broad captain the ODI so id imagine it would be him except for that only Bell and Anderson are only other senior players and cant see either getting the job. KP would be a no-no anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 doesnt Broad captain the ODI so id imagine it would be him except for that only Bell and Anderson are only other senior players and cant see either getting the job. KP would be a no-no anyway Heard Broad mentioned by a few people. He's the T20 Captain, so not beyond the realms of possibility. I don't think I'd like Belly to get it. I'm not sure how well he'd cope with the extra pressure. I think it'd ruin his batting the way it has Cook's. Although he did captain The Bears in a few CB40 games a couple of years back. I think you can rule Anderson out, as I think they'd want to pick a captain who will be around for a while. KP has ruffled to many feathers to be considered, and Prior has been dropped. Not leaving us with many options, unless we go totally leftfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 think how bad England have been is described by the fact that Nathan Lyon No.11 batted 5 times Not Out 5 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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