Gringo Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 anyone think this is serious? PP, I think we are still of like minds on this one. It's all a distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonrx Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Sorry, I'm staying pessimistic for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LancsVillan Posted July 20, 2006 Moderator Share Posted July 20, 2006 For once I don't think it is, although I can see why people would think that Neither do I actually. I think the land sale, oleary's removal and this bid are all tied together me too Land Sale - removes overdraft O'Leary -not the manager of choice players told that if O'Leary goes soon a new manager and funds will be coming in, hence willingness to produce a 'statement' O'Leary in on it to get a payoff and chance to go to Sunderland (and please take Phillips with you) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faust Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 This cant be true, i was told in no uncertain terms yesterday by posters on here that these potential buyers were a figment of my imagination :roll: Not by me, you weren't. I told you that in order for Ellis to step down, someone else needed to step up and that we didn't know a) if anyone was willing to do so at what price they would be willing to do so and c) whether they would share our ambitions for the club. Now the club has issued a statement claiming that there ARE interested parties, which (if you believe the statement) takes care of a). But and c) are still big unknowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Land Sale - removes overdraft Yes but it does a bit more than remove the overdraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 For once I don't think it is, although I can see why people would think that Neither do I actually. I think the land sale, oleary's removal and this bid are all tied together I hope your right. I hope that the pressure makes Doug sell, it surely cannot look good we lose our manger media all over us and Doug rejects another bid! Surely he wouldnt do that? Hmm yeah he would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenjos Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 or maybe its another year of Q: Doug when are you going to leave? A I cannot comment because of been in an offer situation and the Stock Exchange doesnt allow it Q: Doug, do you want to sell? A I cannot comment because of been in an offer situation and the Stock Exchange doesnt allow it Q: Doug what is the capital of France? A I cannot comment because of been in an offer situation and the Stock Exchange doesnt allow it Q: So doug do you lick your cats butt to freshen your breath? A I cannot comment because of been in an offer situation and the Stock Exchange doesnt allow it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 You CAN fool all of the people most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 20, 2006 Moderator Share Posted July 20, 2006 As I said I can see why people would think that Stevenjos, it would be the norm But think about it like this........................... Land deal...........like Al says reduces the overdraft etc if DOL was going to be sacked, why not do it at the end of the season? Because the pressure to appoint a new manager would have been imense by now especially if the new bidders had someone lined up and didn't want the club to make the appointment - a caretaker manager ALL summer? wouldn't really have washed would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 If the offer for the land has been on the table for over a year, then there is no need to complete sale for any buyer to see the true value and with an option to realise true value if that's where he wants to go. Now AVFC are committed to the deal and the cash don't come til xmas, so the o/draft is still there. Sacking the manager just increased the overdraft. I can think of quite a few clubs where a new owner has removed the manager on arrival. Struggling to think of any where the departing owner has sacked the manager on the way out. Not the action of someone selling. And the bid speculation. No sign of a serious bidder. By serious I mean aggressive, hostile. Any hostile takeover in the history of time (minor exaggeration) has involved stakebuilding by the aggressive party well in advance of making their intentions known. That's why the have rules on declaration of intentions at certain shareholding levels. So if no hostile bidder, then we have another AVIL inspired stalking horse. Will they cough up £65m and guarantee £20m per annum investment. This one should run til November time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Could it be (***Clutching at straws***) that a buyer has been found and negotiations have been going well ie. Elies may have dropped his asking price to a realistic number and things have progressed to a point where the new owner(s) have set some things in stone that must happen. The removal of DOL for one which would be a stumbling block as he can't manage a footie team but also if the papers are accurate then it seems the VIlla found between 0.5 and 1.5 Million to get rid of DOL which we haven't got !!!. Then we get that weird statement to the stock exchange again. The ammount of ***t us fans have had to put up with in the last week I am trying to find a chink of light in a very dark tunnel, a tunnel so huge and vast in dimensions it could belong to Jade Goody, I say this because a lorry driver just asked directions out of it. He admitted it was his fault as he had been down this road many times before only to find out Herber had been running around turning the lights of again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I wouldnt look into it too much, another smokescreen methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 He admitted it was his fault as he had been down this road many times before only to find out Herber had been running around turning the lights of again. Round and round again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 The only thing that worries me is if Ellis goes,DOL gone, a dynamic new board ploughing millions into Villa, a manager with ambition, a track record and high profile signings, gates up, revenue up, Champions league football, Wembley finals etc etc What the **** would we have to moan about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 20, 2006 Moderator Share Posted July 20, 2006 The only thing that worries me is if Ellis goes,DOL gone, a dynamic new board ploughing millions into Villa, a manager with ambition, a track record and high profile signings, gates up, revenue up, Champions league football, Wembley finals etc etc What the **** would we have to moan about :crylaugh: Post of the day. Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabug Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 The only thing that worries me is if Ellis goes,DOL gone, a dynamic new board ploughing millions into Villa, a manager with ambition, a track record and high profile signings, gates up, revenue up, Champions league football, Wembley finals etc etc What the **** would we have to moan about Im sure we would find something maybe ticket prices to the European cup final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I might even smile on the way to the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabug Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I might even smile on the way to the ground If we are all happy & cheering out club(manager & board included) how can we live up to our fickle name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddybloke Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Do you think that new owners would want thier own choice of manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 20, 2006 Moderator Share Posted July 20, 2006 I might even smile on the way to the ground although it could be a mild stroke, or gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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