Dr_Pangloss Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 He has gone from 'Bad' Chad to 'Flab' Chad Dawson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Lomachenko puts on a master class to beat Gary Russell Jr for the vacant WBO title, making Lomachenko a world champ after 3 'official' professional fights. Lomanchenko is simply an excellent technician and took the much hyped Russell to school excellent stuff. Guerrero vs Kamegai was really entertaining war from start to finish, I really don't know why Guerrero insists on going to war so often when he's a good boxer from the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm still not sure anyone with 3 never mind 2 fights should get a shot at a belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) I guess he technically hasn't got there on merit in terms of working up the rankings in order to get a title shot but it's plain as day that his ability and maturity puts him right up there. He ran Salido very very close in his first title shot and I think that performance proves he belongs at the top end of the division. It was an odd fight, Gary Russell Jr is considered a top talent, and although has 20 odd pro fights he only ever fought tomato cans, and the fight was for a vacated belt. I thought Loma showed great technique and ability throughout, he just needs to work on pacing fights better, he tends to give some rounds away through inactivity, perhaps he could do with improving his stamina so he doesn't have obvious lulls in activity. Besides that he appears already to be among the sports premier technicians. Edited June 22, 2014 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnie Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Loma was absolutely incredible last night. Technically superb. Personally right now I think he beats Donaire, especially as Donaire is clearly not the fighter he was 2-3 years ago. I guess Rigondeux is the big match up the purists are craving for. Crawford v gamboa next week. Cant wait! Crawford looked good against ricky burns (although I guess it wasnt hard not to) and ive always loved watching gamboa despite his obvious flaws and that he has bee inactive since being with '50 cent promotions'. Ricky Burns fights Friday night on sky, although ive never heard of his opponent ive read he is decent and will prove an extremely tough comeback fight for burna. Might be worth having a few quid on his opponent if the reports ive read are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnie Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm still not sure anyone with 3 never mind 2 fights should get a shot at a belt. They do in UFC and thats without the 450+ amateur fights like Lomanchenko has had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm still not sure anyone with 3 never mind 2 fights should get a shot at a belt. They do in UFC and thats without the 450+ amateur fights like Lomanchenko has had. I really don't give a shit about UFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnie Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm still not sure anyone with 3 never mind 2 fights should get a shot at a belt. They do in UFC and thats without the 450+ amateur fights like Lomanchenko has had. I really don't give a shit about UFC. Lol yeah UFC is a load of BS to be honest. I tried to get into it but nah its awful to watch. It seems to attract a certain demographic of roid head idiots who think they are tough in their 'tap out' tshirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 You can stick a fork in Ricky Burns, he's finished, although he never was any good in the first place and was only ever a paper champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnie Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yeah ive never rated him but a bit harsh to call him a paper champion. His world title win was against a legitimate world level opponent in rocky martinez and against all odds he managed to win on points in a fight of the year contender. His defences since then have been woeful though. If you want a paper champion look no further then scott quiqq and jamie mcdonnell. Its a scandal that they can call themselves 'world champions' when they aint really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I didn't see the fight last night how did it go? I've never been a fan of Ricky Burns at all and he has looked positively terrible in his last three or four fights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 Burns has always been terrible, stiff, robotic, upright, no defence, no power and predictable. The only thing he had was heart. Rocky Martinez really didn't have any wins on his record of note, Burns only once fought a top lightweight (Crawford) and he got beat very clearly. He showed no ambition to go abroad and fight the best because he had a cushy set up in Glasgow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnie Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) What a fight and certainly a fight of the year contender. Didnt realise crawford was that good and even in defeat Gamboa's stock has risen despite his dodgy chin being exposed tonight. The best crowd amd atmosphere at an american event ive seen in a long time as well. Incredible entertainment. The commentator gary logan said that crawford is the closest to thomas hearns he has ever seen. I was thinking that the whole fight. His jab is sensational and looks comfortable fighting in either southpaw or orthodox. Intresting that after the fight 50 cent was missing from Gamboa's side...gamboa needs to get rid of him and join top rank or golden boy to become more active again. Edited June 29, 2014 by donnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Crawford is the goods, but seriously, he's nothing like Hearns, his power anywhere near that sort of level. Gamboa did well for the early rounds, but when they both squared off I knew Crawford would win and likely by stoppage he was too big for Gamboa both in terms of height and weight on the night. Gamboa's technical deficiencies where exposed, he has no defence, he's too stiff and upright and his chin is glass, but he did show his blistering handspeed and did hurt Crawford a couple of times, I think the key takeaway from a Gamboa standpoint is that he's too small for lightweight and needs to go to super feather and see what he can do there. Crawford obviously now has a lot of stock and should look to move up to junior welterweight for bigger fights since there aren't any at lightweight, although I will still argue that Miguel Vazquez is the number 1 lightweight. Edited June 29, 2014 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Alvarez v Lara on Saturday (well Sunday morning) I'm looking forward to it, should be a good fight so I'll be staying up for it. I've got Alvarez as quite a strong favorite for this one Has anyone seen the undercard for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 here The full undercard for the July 12 Showtime pay-per-view event headlined by Canelo Alvarez and Erislandy Lara has been announced, with notable names such as Juan Manuel Lopez, Abner Mares, and Mauricio Herrera part of the bill. Lopez (34-3, 31 KO) will be taking on prospect Francisco Vargas (19-0-1, 13 KO). Vargas, 29, is actually only slightly younger than the 30-year-old Lopez, but obviously has far less miles on him than his Puerto Rican opponent. JuanMa is coming off of a big win over Daniel Ponce De Leon, which has given his career new life. Vargas last fought on March 8, beating Abner Cotto over 10 rounds. Mares (26-1-1, 14 KO) will finally return from his first pro loss, a stunning first round knockout at the hands of Jhonny Gonzalez last August. The 28-year-old Mares, who has held titles at 118, 122, and 126 pounds, will face Puerto Rico's Jonathan Oquendo (24-3, 16 KO). The 30-year-old Oquendo is a solid fighter but more gatekeeper than contender, and this is a pretty standard "get-well" matchup for Mares, and could also be an exciting action fight. Herrera (20-4, 7 KO) will get another Showtime opportunity following his debatable March loss to Danny Garcia in Puerto Rico. The 34-year-old veteran will be facing Johan Perez (19-1-1, 13 KO), who has won four straight since a technical decision loss to Pablo Cesar Cano, including victories over veteran Steve Forbes, Paul Spadafora, and upcoming Showtime main event B-side Yoshihiro Kamegai. Also slated for action, likely on SHO Extreme, is WBO bantamweight titlist Tomoki Kameda (29-0, 18 KO), the youngest and perhaps best of the fighting Kameda clan. He'll be defending against Pungluang Sor Singyu (46-2, 31 KO) in what might actually be the best undercard fight of the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Lara should win and make Alvarez look silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Lara got jobbed on the cards last night, Lara controlled most of the fight and landed the better shots, I hate Canelo but then they were never going to let the cash cow lose to a Cuban who couldn't draw flies to shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Didn't see the fight, saw the cards. First thing I thought was one of the judges was bent. Why do they make it so obvious? Two very tight cards, oh, and one of them gives it to Canelo by 8 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Haven't watched the fight yet it's on box nation now so I'm just watching the undercards at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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