leemond2008 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 **** hate Calzaghe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 95% of Calzaghe's opponents were a mixture of bums, shot fighters and C level boxers. The only names on his records are Kessler, Sakio Bika and Hopkins. Kessler he clearly beat in a good fight, some argue that this was a prime Kessler but he went into the fight with a badly injured right hand, so I'd say not really. Kessler landed the better punches but again Calzaghe did his usual slap his way to victory as Kessler struggled with the pace for the lion's share of the fight. Bika is an ugly, dirty boxer and Calzaghe beat him in what I fought was a close fight, bit of a non-event. Bika was and still is arguably world level but nothing more than that. He never held a legit. world title and never beat anyone of note. Hopkins well every time I watch it I score the fight to Hopkins so I don't at all give Calzaghe credit for 'winning' that one. Calzaghe forced him to fight at a much higher pace but Hopkins clearly landed more cleaner, harder shots. Most of Calzaghe's landed punches were slaps and he never once hurt Hopkins. Other names included Roy Jones - when Roy was shot to absolute pieces. Jeff Lacey - who was never nothing but a hype job C level boxer with no major wins going into that fight. Robin Reid, who arguably beat Calzaghe in that one. So yeah, suffice to say that I think he's one of the most overrated boxers of all time with very few notable wins and a padded record full of stiffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1Avfc Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Most importantly Fury needs to learn how to use his jab, his got arms as long as barge poles but doesn't know how to utilise it. He needs to put his guard up! He needs a new trainer He needs a nutritionist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Yeah he needs to realise that boxing isn't one of those 'fair fights' that his sort specialise in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Yeah, I've thought that before too. Fury likes getting involved in a tear up and it will cost him. He is entertaining though and I'll continue to watch him because of that. His cousin fought last night too. Looks like he has a bit of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Luke Campbell signs for Eddie Hearn Matchroom Cunningham plans Fury appeal, cites illegal forearm use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I'd definitely watch a Fury - Cunningham rematch. I'm pretty sure they could sell it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I would say he deserves one as well, fair enough I think the result would have probably gone the same way because Fury was just sapping the energy from him with all of the leaning and holding but I thought straight away that it was a horrible punch to knock someone out with...Having said that though shit like this happens in boxing everynow and again doesn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I love at 2.30 how Hughie gives the fake lunge and then tags him. Beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I would say he deserves one as well, fair enough I think the result would have probably gone the same way because Fury was just sapping the energy from him with all of the leaning and holding but I thought straight away that it was a horrible punch to knock someone out with...Having said that though shit like this happens in boxing everynow and again doesn't it And knock him out he did. He also got put firmly on his arse by a midget.It is literally the equivalent of me being bowled over by a 5 foot bloke, not to mention the poundage difference. Put him in the ring with a decent heavyweight, Price for example, and he'll get absolutely ruined IMO. Everyone in his camp knows this I'm sure. If they don't, they're in for a BIG surprise. That said I love to hate Tyson Fury. He boxes like an oaf, with those silly little matchstick legs of his and the high waistband, but I hope he sticks around if only to breath a little life into the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 That's the thing with him, there is a kid I work with who casually follows the boxing and he always rips on me as soon as I mention Fury, he just doesn't understand that he is good for the sport in his own little way. People who don't normally watch boxing make a point of watching him because the English press hype him up to be brilliant when he is definitely not that People who do follow boxing make a point of watching him because we know he is shite but we also know that literally anything can happen with him from him knocking someone out cold to him being put on his arse by a midget to him punching himself in the face or even him serenading the **** crowd afterwards, sometimes it is nice to watch a "lighthearted" fight just to see what happens rather than watching the full on serious fights. One thing you can say for Fury it's never going to be dull, I'll keep on watching him and enjoying the freak show until he gets sparked by someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I'll tell you who is very good, Lee Selby. World class? Guess we'll have to see. I don't know much about the featherweight division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 23, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 23, 2013 I always make an effort to watch any fight that's on terrestrial TV - in some small way, I always hope it encourages more it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 Lee Selby is nothing special and not world class as far as I'm concerned. He can't be world class because he has never fought anyone beyond domestic level lol. He's also 26, top level fighters are doing more than fighting domestic level stiffs at that age, most have won a world title. The featherweight division has some decent talent like Mikey Garcia, Salido, Chris John and Gradovic. Add to that list Nonito Donaire who will be moving up very soon, Abner Mares who has recently made the move and Rigondeaux who will likely move up as there's nothing there for him at Super Bantam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I think DDID was more questioning if he has the potential to become world class, I don't think he was suggesting he was world class at this minute, yeah the featherweight division isn't too bad at all couple of good fights to be had in there. I thought I read the other day that Donaire was staying at his current weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 Donaire is most likely going to fight Juanma next at featherweight, Donaire is too big for super bantam and the only way he'll stay there is for a rematch with Rigo, there's no one else to fight at the weight since Mares has moved up. And yeah he was questioning his potential, I misread, although I still doubt his potential, most top level boxers are at world level before the age of 26 and the division he is in is about to get stacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I think DDID was more questioning if he has the potential to become world class, I don't think he was suggesting he was world class at this minute, yeah the featherweight division isn't too bad at all couple of good fights to be had in there. I thought I read the other day that Donaire was staying at his current weight Indeed I was. It's a bit like watching a young player rip up the championship and questioning whether he can do it at the highest level. It's almost impossible to know, but it's clear he has ability. He's clearly the best of Britain too and that normally gives him a chance at world level. Besides which, I can't see the relevance in his age. 26 is not 36, he's entered the sport relatively late, he's clearly still young enough and fit enough to compete. I like watching him fight. He picks his shots well behind good foot and head work and he has the power to stop. Granted he's a bit of a chav but he seems a likeable enough 'kid'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Carl Froch didn't even turn pro until he was 25. He seems to have done okay for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Indeed. Have you watched Selby Rev? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I have seen him I think, if he has been on telly then I will have seen him, I've not really took much notice of him though to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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