Anthony Posted April 3, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 3, 2013 I'm traditional working class apparently. Only because I own my flat. If not for that I'd be in the Precariat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) If we had a class system it would appear as though I'd be in the same as the 2 posh knobs above Same here. It asks nothing of my societal values, only how much money I earn, thart I have an acquaintance who's an 'artist' and that I've been to the opera. Fluff. Edited April 3, 2013 by dont_do_it_doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) I managed to bag a spot among the "Techincal Middle Classes". I can't really agree with that, upper working class at best. Edit: I can't even spell technical look. Edited April 3, 2013 by Shillzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted April 3, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 3, 2013 Just read that Iain Banks has terminal cancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 3, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 3, 2013 Oh **** it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islingtonclaret Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I got second from bottom. Nice. The one that's highly cultured but I've not got two beans to rub together. Mainly because I can't save anything and can't get a mortgage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Just read that Iain Banks has terminal cancer Jaysus, not good. Sad news. Need to pick up a few more of his books, after being iffy about Wasp Factory, Crow Road won me over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I am an 'Emergent Service Worker' according to the BBC's new class system survey. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22000973 Result: the class group you most closely match is: Established middle class This is the most gregarious and the second wealthiest of all the class groups. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group: Enjoy a diverse range of cultural activities Went to university Are comfortably off, secure and established Seems I'm with the Moon Man. That 3 minute 'survey' is far too lighweight to get proper insight from though. I think you'd need to be answering in far more depth to get really accurate readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I am an 'Emergent Service Worker' according to the BBC's new class system survey. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22000973 Result: the class group you most closely match is: Established middle class This is the most gregarious and the second wealthiest of all the class groups. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group: Enjoy a diverse range of cultural activities Went to university Are comfortably off, secure and established Seems I'm with the Moon Man. That 3 minute 'survey' is far too lighweight to get proper insight from though. I think you'd need to be answering in far more depth to get really accurate readings. I agree. My fortuitous rise up the property ladder, coupled with a reasonably decent job has landed me among the middle classes. But on a day to day basis I barely have enough money to procure the steam from a tramp's puddle of piss. Middle class, I am not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 3, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 3, 2013 I got Established Middle Class too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted April 3, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 3, 2013 If "middle class" means "Graduate, homeowner, into cultural stuff", then I'm middle class. If it means "Owns shares, member of golf club, likes rugby union, votes Tory", then I'm not. If "working class" means "Grew up on council estate, likes beer and football, votes Labour", then I'm working class. If it means "Eats McDonalds and KFC, wears sportswear, watches reality TV and soaps", then I'm not. I think I AM a distinct class though - something like: "Born in the 1950s, welfare state, grammar school educated, ex-working class, upwardly mobile, left-leaning". That may sound absurdly specific, but it describes a great many of my friends (and my wife) very accurately. Or it may be as simple as: "Breakfast-dinner-tea", OR "Breakfast-lunch-dinner". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 If "middle class" means "Graduate, homeowner, into cultural stuff", then I'm middle class. If it means "Owns shares, member of golf club, likes rugby union, votes Tory", then I'm not. If "working class" means "Grew up on council estate, likes beer and football, votes Labour", then I'm working class. If it means "Eats McDonalds and KFC, wears sportswear, watches reality TV and soaps", then I'm not. I think I AM a distinct class though - something like: "Born in the 1950s, welfare state, grammar school educated, ex-working class, upwardly mobile, left-leaning". That may sound absurdly specific, but it describes a great many of my friends (and my wife) very accurately. Or it may be as simple as: "Breakfast-dinner-tea", OR "Breakfast-lunch-dinner". yep, very similar did the test (it's way too basic natch), came out as established middle class I would describe myself as very working class background, currently confused due to a long period of easy credit now being corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 3, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 3, 2013 A question from a close-by foreigner who has been confused by this for years if I may.If Margaret Thatcher is so hated and so regularly lambasted as being the devil-queen by the British, how the hell did she stay in power from 1979 until 1990, winning 2 re-elections after her initial election win and only stepping down while the Tories were still in power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 ^ Something I've often wondered aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 You couple of posh words removed, **** off back to your caviar and champagne lunches. Do not address me directly, peasant. Now go and fetch my formal trousers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 A question from a close-by foreigner who has been confused by this for years if I may. If Margaret Thatcher is so hated and so regularly lambasted as being the devil-queen by the British, how the hell did she stay in power from 1979 until 1990, winning 2 re-elections after her initial election win and only stepping down while the Tories were still in power? you really want to do this in General Chat? people will monologue at you all day, the only true answer is this: she tapped into the fact that you don't need 51% support, you need more support than the others, then she got lucky with a 'war' against idiots that she helped provoke and she has no soul so was able to work 20 hour days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 3, 2013 Moderator Share Posted April 3, 2013 I'm tagging it on the end of the 'class system' chat because I suspected it was a middle versus working class answer. You're right Chris that I don't want some in-depth answer because I suspect the answer is probably a fairly simple one. It had just eluded me for years, not that I went to great lengths looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 The evil bint did not 'step down'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I'm tagging it on the end of the 'class system' chat because I suspected it was a middle versus working class answer. You're right Chris that I don't want some in-depth answer because I suspect the answer is probably a fairly simple one. It had just eluded me for years, not that I went to great lengths looking. Sadly, the anser to your question would be very long, perhaps quite boring, and very detailed. A multitude of reasons gave rise to Thatcher and her 'ism'. A multitude of factors enable her to experience longevity. She was ousted by her own party in the end, due to her increasing madness, and voter alienation. So many factors at play. The main 2 were perhaps our shite FPTP voting 'system' and the lack of a credible, viable alternative on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 If you own your house and have money and may have met someone in the arts you're pretty much nailed on to be Established Middle Class according to that survey. Using Moonman's class definition by meal names.... I use "dinner" and "tea" interchangably for the final meal of the day. Although lunch is always in the middle? So I have no idea which arrangement is "working" class or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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